NRBQ – “Me and the Boys” (1979)
A true rock & roll classic from Big Al & the boys…
Big Star – “When My Baby’s Beside Me” (1972)
A should have been classic by power pop legends Big Star…
Austin Powell – “March of the Flower Children: The Final Thoughts of Sky Saxon” (2009)

This article about the late Sky Saxon (former singer of 60s garage psych punks The Seeds) comes from The Austin Chronicle, July 24, 2009. Saxon passed away on June 25th. Definitely an original…
With perfect poise, Sky Saxon sits cross-legged atop a bed of brown and gold silk sheets in his living room. Unpacked boxes surround him, only heightening the sense of physical disconnect permeating the rustic, South Austin home he recently leased. There’s a cosmic awareness to his presence, an aloofness that suggests he’s fallen down a rabbit hole and made himself quite comfortable in it.
Exactly one week from today, on June 25, the onetime leader and bassist of 1960s garage-rock pioneers the Seeds will die unexpectedly of heart and kidney failure at St. David’s South Austin Hospital from an undiagnosed infection in his internal organs. At the moment, he appears peaceful and at relative ease, casually pulling at strands of his thinning, shoulder-length hair with slightly overgrown fingernails. His emerald, starry eyes look distant and tired; his face droops down low, resembling Dumbledore from the Harry Potter series – an aged wizard passing on his torch. With an assembly worker’s precision, he rolls a joint effortlessly, as if by second nature.
“If someone were to ask me, I’d say there were four bands that defined the Sixties,” bellows Saxon in a deep, dry voice, without prompt and to no one in particular, opening what was intended to be a series of interviews. “They are, in no particular order: Love, the Seeds, the Doors, and the Byrds. With those four bands it was enough, and all the ones that came after that imitated our sound. The Byrds brought Dylan back in with the 12-string guitar. With the Seeds, I brought in the piano and organ the way it had never been heard before. The Doors copied the Seeds, but they did heroin, so their music was more down.”
Saxon’s already lost to the world within his head, an iridescent realm of profound spiritual conviction and conspiracy theories, filtered through the haze of the psychedelic 1960s.
“The Seeds smoked herb, sacred herb,” he clarifies while continuing the tradition. “That’s why their music was up. Of all the music, the Seeds will probably survive. I’d have to say that whatever drug someone does is going to reflect on their music.
“If people have hanging over their head that they might die for this country at 18 or 19, cut ‘em some slack and let them smoke some herb, at least past the draft years. That weighs on a lot of people. With the trillion dollars that funded the tobacco industry, we could have had sacred herb all that time and paid the tobacco industry to grow it. Then we’d have a world that didn’t want war.
“It’s the three I’s: imagination, inspiration, and intuition. People should drink champagne, women especially, and they should be allowed to smoke herb ’cause nobody knows how long we’re going to be here.”
Mr. Farmer
The life of Sky Saxon is purposely shrouded in vague mystique. He was born Richard Elvern Marsh in Salt Lake City, Utah, on August 20, though the exact year remains unknown, the dates given in various interviews ranging from 1937 to 1946. In the early Sixties, he began his career under the moniker Little Richie Marsh, issuing a handful of sugary doo-wop singles before morphing into Sky Saxon on Conquest Records, where he led the Soul Rockers and the Electra Fires.
Led by his proto-punk sneer, the Seeds, who formed and signed to GNP Crescendo in 1965, encapsulated the heathen magic of the Los Angeles scene leading up to the original Summer of Love. The band’s eponymous debut and follow-up A Web of Sound, both released in 1966, are pure shamanic mischief, a mesmerizing amalgam of primitive psychedelia formed by Jan Savage’s crude-fuzz guitar, the organ haze of Daryl Hooper, and Rick Andridge’s infectious, rock-steady percussion.
At once heralded by Muddy Waters in the liner notes to 1967’s A Full Spoon of Seedy Blues – originally issued under the name the Sky Saxon Blues Band – as the American Rolling Stones and dismissed by famed rock critic and brief Austinite Lester Bangs on the same accord, the Seeds’ legacy has largely been reduced to two incendiary singles, “Pushin’ Too Hard” and “Can’t Seem to Make You Mine.” Both are preserved on Rhino’s essential box set Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the First Psychedelic Era 1965-1968.
The Seeds broke up officially in 1968, following the departure of Savage and Andridge, though Saxon sporadically released new material under the name. That’s when the facts start to blur.
In the early 1970s, Saxon joined the Source Family, perhaps the quintessential hippie commune, in Hollywood Hills. Founded by Jim Baker, the magnetic owner of L.A. vegetarian restaurant the Source, who christened himself Father Yod and then Ya Ho Wha, the Source Family blessed Saxon with the names Sunlight and Arlick and informed his spiritual philosophies. In 1998, he curated God and Hair, a confounding, 13-disc collection of tribal meditations and improvised electric freak-outs from Ya Ho Wa 13, the Source Family’s musical offspring, which featured one of his many spoken-word dialogues.
All the while, Saxon amassed an aberrant solo career, dropping several albums of pastoral acid-pop in the tradition of the Seeds’ 1967 LP, Future, each one credited to a different incarnation: Sky Sunlight, Sunlight & the New Seeds, Sunstar, Star’s New Seeds Band, and the Universal Stars Band.
Upon his arrival in Austin last month, Saxon seemed poised for a second coming on par with that of local contemporary Roky Erickson. Following last year’s King of Garage Rock on Cleopatra Records, a selection of covers and greatest hits, Saxon recorded a duet with Billy Corgan of the Smashing Pumpkins, “Choose to Choose Love,” that recently cropped up online. Billed as World Spirits, he headlined the Black Angels’ Texas Psych Fest No. 2 in March and was scheduled to take part in the California ‘66 Revue Tour this summer with members of the Electric Prunes and Love. A reissue campaign of the Seeds’ core catalog, along with a corresponding documentary, is slated for release next year through Ace Records UK.
“The Seeds had a singular sound and were a crack rock & roll band, with an edge, in both look and sound, that few bands had in the mid-1960s,” writes Ace’s Alec Palao. “Once the band had their initial success, the hipsters deserted the Seeds because they perceived the band’s music as ’simple.’ Ironically, it’s that very element that’s given the group an enduring appeal to the post-punk generations.”
Try to Understand
Sabrina Sherry Smith Saxon, the singer’s wife of two years, exudes the aura of the newly converted. A generation his junior, she’s clearly fascinated by his story and utterly devoted to his career, serving as his manager, booking agent, and publicist.
“The big thing for people to realize is that he’s a master lyricist and a master spontaneous lyricist,” she smiles as she enters the room, bearing cups of freshly brewed coffee in both hands.
“Thank you,” summons Saxon in response and then, with the wave of his right hand, adds: “I channel. I channel. I’ve been rehearsing for a thousand years.”
At the Psych Fest in March, you kept chanting, “Acid is in the air.”
“What I meant by that is for anyone that’s ever taken acid, it’s all an imaginary thing. I believe that as sick as a person gets, they should never go to the hospital. They should smoke some sacred herb and go within themselves and try to pinpoint what’s wrong, what they ate that’s causing the problem. Ninety-five percent of people that are sick are sick because they went to the hospital and all of the negativity that goes along with it.
“What I didn’t know, and what I’d like to share with the people, is that just because someone calls an ambulance, that doesn’t mean you have to go. You can wave them off and say: ‘I’m sorry, I feel better. I don’t want to go.’ But, you can only do it once. The second time they’ll come get you for real. How safe is anyone?”
Saxon pauses momentarily for an answer that doesn’t come.
“Roky Erickson was a pure genius, a gift to Austin, Texas,” he continues, “but he got ran through the system. The system misunderstood him and took his genius away ’cause they thought he was crazy. He actually opened for me twice. I thought that 13th [Floor Elevators] was a really good name.
“Here’s what’s up. I used to think that [the Source Family] was the only one that’s saved. There’s about 150 of us. We were the ones that were going to open the doors for everyone else to come whenever we leave. My thinking’s still about the same. We developed a deep consciousness through ancient teachings, and because of that, we are special people.”
A plate of sliced cantaloupe arrives next.
“You can quote me on this,” states Saxon with a sudden change in tone. “I’m a vegetarian, of course, but I think that the music industry is far bigger than all the meat industries of the world. If we went back to music and vegetarianism, we could have way past 2012, but if people keep eating meat, God’s going to view it like the T. rex. The T. rex lasted for like 70 million years, and the herbivorous dinosaur lasted for like 900 million years. In 70 million years, the T. rex almost wiped out the herb-eating dinosaur. If man keeps eating meat like they’re doing, God has no choice but to send the comet. It’s the same comet that took out the dinosaurs. It would take out two-thirds of the earth and two-thirds of the people. I also believe that a lot of gods are invisible. They’re counseling mortals to do good things.”
Going back to Roky Erickson, did his recent personal and professional resurrection inspire your relocation to Austin?
“I have to think that Roky’s resurrection was when he sent me a song and asked me if I wanted to do it,” responds Saxon without hesitation. “The song was called ‘Don’t Slander Me.’ It became famous in an underground way because it had Mitch Mitchell on it, Jimi Hendrix’s drummer. I rewrote it, but I didn’t take credit on it. Instead of ‘Don’t slander me,’ I put, ‘Don’t slander me and my dog.’ I brought the dog into it. Because I did that record [1988's World Fantastic], it made a resurrection for him. I actually like to use the word returning. He’s returning; I’m returning, like we’ve always been here.
“I listen to my own records. No one’s going to make records like that anymore unless they use the same procedures. All of the Seeds’ records were made on 2-inch tape with 16-track analog. That’s how you make the hit records.”
There’s a momentary break in Saxon’s streaming narrative as Sabrina brings in a loaf of fresh baked bread and sliced cheddar cheese.
“I’d like to do a 78 vinyl just to be collectable.”
What’s the Seeds’ legacy?
“Their legacy would be flower power. It’ll never go away. Flower power is here to stay. It made the earth better. My objection to rock and roll was that Alan Freed named it, and at the time, rock and roll was under payola. I didn’t want to be a part of it, so I had to come up with something. I thought, ‘flower people, flower rock, flower power’; that was my genre. It was a whole different thing. It was the words I put into it, like ‘March of the Flower Children.’
“When I think of all the songs I’ve written, maybe 10,000, most of them are lost. The ones that stayed are classics. If I were born in England, I could have been the Beatles. And had the Beatles been born in America, they could’ve been the Seeds. … I would disqualify every band if they didn’t bring in a movement. The Grateful Dead’s movement was drugs. They made everyone drug-dependent without trying to get them to God.”
A Faded Picture
Two days after the interview, no one expects Saxon to show up at Antone’s, where he’s booked to headline as World Spirits with Shapes Have Fangs. In fact, those closest to him discourage the notion. His health has taken a sudden, drastic turn for the worse, and his self-medicating isn’t working this time. He feels weak and is having difficulty breathing, which has prevented him from attending any of the band’s rehearsals.
Sets from the Tunnels and Christian Bland’s Revelators seem to drag on through the evening, as if attempting to buy more time. There’s still no consensus as to Saxon’s whereabouts. Alex Maas and Bland of the Black Angels attempt to stall the crowd, improvising a series of dark, Texas drones.
When Saxon finally appears at the club’s front doors close to midnight, he does so unannounced and unassuming, appearing frail and grizzled in his usual garb and skullcap. Onstage he sits down at the front facing the audience and waits for Shapes Have Fangs – guitarist/singer Dustin Coffey, guitarist/keyboardist Skyler McGlothlin, drummer Evan McGlothlin, and bassist Josh Willis – to reposition its gear, still set up from the band’s performance earlier in the evening.
What transpires is nothing short of a miracle. With studied enthusiasm, Shapes Have Fangs lock into a hard groove behind “Can’t Seem to Make You Mine,” each band member bobbing to the beat. Saxon’s raspy voice comes through in colors for the closing refrain, repeating the words like a personal prayer.
I can’t seem to make you mine.
I can’t seem to make you mine.
I can’t seem to make you mine.
World Spirits manage four more Seeds’ staples – “Pushin’ Too Hard,” “Evil Hoodoo,” “Just Let Go,” and “Girl I Want You” – that bottle the group’s timeless appeal and playful psychedelia. Then it just ends. Having summoned the last of his strength, Saxon receives help back to his van.
“I know Sky was pleased,” relays Coffey later. “He said he felt like it was a great show. It was a nice way to say goodbye together.”
Travel With Your Mind
After a brief intermission, Saxon returns to his living room draped in a pale blue scarf, encrusted with small plastic diamonds.
“He’s famous for his scarves,” Sabrina enthuses.
“From this interview on, you should be Austin Powers Powell, APP,” instructs Saxon. “Austin Powers is a copy of the Seeds. The logo and everything, it was the same thing we were doing with the Seeds back then. Look it up. You’ll find out it’s true. The point is when someone uses three names, you get their attention. Mine is like three lightning bolts: Sky Sunlight Saxon.
“I think everyone should get struck by lightning at least once,” he continues almost tauntingly. “How about that? I would rather get struck by lightning than tazed by the police. If I got struck by lightning, I’d be a new person. Something new would happen to me. I would chance it. Why not? You’d come out a superhuman.”
He fumbles with his laptop, attempting to play the music he recorded with Yesterday’s Thoughts, a retro-psych outfit from Athens, Greece, for 2004’s Let’s Take a Ride With … (Sound Effect).
“So anyway, I think all the computers are going to go down,” prophesizes the host out of mild frustration. “I give them to 2012. By that time a third of the people using them will be sort of blind. Life will be altered. I’m sure if Elvis were alive today, he’d be shooting computers not TVs. He’d shoot a few TVs, too.”
With assistance from Sabrina, he pulls up his own MySpace page, on which both the names Sky Sunlight Saxon and the Seeds are trademarked, and streams all six of the floral relics from 2008’s Back to the Garden. Forming a cone out of newspaper, he illustrates the way he achieved the echo-laden effect in “Mystery Man” and is particularly roused by “Halt.” He repeats each lyric – apocalyptic visions of war and the redemptive power of Ya Ho Wha – with added emphasis and explanation. He acts out the music with both hands.
“Here’s my far-range vision,” Saxon offers upon the song’s conclusion. “Ninety-seven people onstage all representing different countries, and they’re all in the Seeds band. Ninety-seven people bringing peace to the earth. The reason I say 97 is nine and seven is 16. One and six is seven, and seven is the number that rules the power of the whole universe. Maybe I would come out with seven Seeds and then 16 Seeds. Just say my vision is 16 Seeds onstage. That’s realistic.”
I nod and begin making my way toward the dining room, which is barren save for a beat-up, old piano.
“I was signed by Fred Astaire,” Saxon blurts out, as if trying to stop me in my tracks. He takes a seat at the piano and tinkers with a few chord progressions. “I was the reason he got into the music business.”
He continues playing, forming a series of circular trills. “Everyone needs to do acid once – especially if you’re going to play with me,” he cracks. “Then you’ll wake up and realize we’re all just characters in the Bible.”
His hands slowly come to a rest, and he gazes toward the ceiling in the far right corner of the room.
“I don’t believe in death; there is no death,” Sky Sunlight Saxon reiterates. “In a higher understanding, none of us die; we leave our body. We’re going from one room to another room. Once you realize there’s no death, then you’ll live forever. I believe that going to church is good if you want it to be good, but the greatest church is within. You’re the church. The resurrection is living within you.”
Austin Powell

The Mothers of Invention – “Anyway the Wind Blows” (Demo – 1965)
Taken from a recent compilation of early demos & unreleased ephemera, comes this 1965 version of “Anyway the Wind Blows” featuring future Canned Heat guitarist Henry Vestine. (Ignore the credits given on youtube for this song).
Metal Mike Saunders – “Psychedelic Punks Refuse to Die: The Revenge of the 13th Floor Elevators” (1972)

An unpublished article by Metal Mike Saunders from 1972 about Roky & the boys…
First off, there’s some stuff I’d like to get off my chest. By the time you read this I’ll have graduated from the good old University of Texas and left town, so I’ll be in no bodily harm.
I’ve wanted to say it for a long time, there’s a lot of people around here who feel the same, and it’s as simple as this: Austin, Texas, is one of the most goddamn laidback dumps in the whole universe. Imagine a town that’s actually proud of being the home of such linseed hippie hicks as B.W. Stevenson, Jerry Jeff Walker, Marc Benno, Michael Murphy, and John Charles Quatro. And that’s not all folks in the counter-cult community around town seem to think (they brag about it all the time) that Austin is going to be the next San Francisco. As if anyone would even wanna be at this late date. You’d think some people would learn their lesson.
The 13th Floor Elevators are another matter altogether. The Elevators were one of the few groups who really took acid-rock seriously. Literally. Lead singer-songwriter Roky Erickson was an impressionable young kid in 1966, a mama’s boy who invariably took after his friends, and so it came to pass that Roky wound up dropping acid 400-500 times, drinking tubfuls of DMT, and as an acquaintance put it, “Roky had a certain mythic stature in those days. Before I met him I was told these stories…like, for instance that he had drilled a hole in his head in order to let out the pressure so he could stay high all the time.”
‘You’re Gonna Miss Me’ (written by Roky) reached #55 nationally in late 1966, the Elevators cut four albums on International Artists, and the group dissolved in 1968-69 due to the cumulative effects of too much dope, crooked managers, and a generally incompetent record company.
Now here’s where the myth come in. In April 1969, Roky Erickson was busted for dope possession a top Mt. Bonnell here in Austin. At the time, Roky was in what might euphemistically be called a state of drug psychosis, so a deal was made. Roky was ruled insane and sent to the State Hospital, rather than get the unbelievably stiff Texas prison sentence for weed.
So Roky Erickson spent three years in Rusk State Hospital. He escaped countless times only to be continually brought back by his friends; he smuggled dope in constantly until Rusk barred anyone from visiting him except his parents and immediate relatives. He had continual hallucinations of Nazi war atrocities, astrobodies, and (you guessed it) seeing-eye pyramids. He had countless fellow inmates quite paternally concerned over his well being. To make a long story short, most of the doctors decided Roky was grade-A nuts and a danger to society.
But if you go down to the Austin county courthouse and check the Criminal Division files, there are psychiatric reports that quite emphatically state that Roky Erickson was not insane at all. These reports describe him as a hysterical personality, a disorder commonly found in women, but so rare in men as to be often mistaken for insanity. Which is what happened. Accustomed to winning people’s approval as was his habit, Roky had proceeded to do a very convincing job of pretending to be insane for all those years.
And it’s all a goddamn shame. For three years America had lost the services of one of the potentially greatest rock ‘n’ rollers ever in the Bob Dylan/Lou Reed tradition – and I’m not being facetious in comparing Roky Erickson to Lou Reed because not only does he look a bit like Lou, but sings like a demented Holly-Dylan-Reed combination and is a genuine punk to boot. He’s a killer songwriter too.
Now here’s the good part. On 27th November, 1972, Roky Erickson was ruled sane and released from Rusk (the result of a lot of hard work, particularly by his lawyer John Howard). Over Christmas vacation Roky reorganized the 13th Floor Elevators with the following personnel: original drummer John Ike Walton, Roky’s brother Donnie Erickson on lead guitar, and new guys also on bass and electric piano (the original bassist is supposed to rejoin anytime, though).
Since then the Elevators have been playing around town following their first public gig in February. I missed their comeback gig, but have seen them every time since then, and am thrilled to report that they are exceedingly good, at times great. I dunno how they compare to the original 1966 group since I wasn’t living in Texas back then, but the current Elevators are undoubtedly one of the punkiest groups in all of America.
And they look like punks too: Roky, his brother Donnie, and drummer John like all look as if they’d never seen 1967, coiffed as they are in stunningly short haircuts by 1972 standards. When the strobe lights get going towards the end of ‘You’re Gonna Miss Me’ and Roky pulls out his harp to screech on it, you’d almost sweat it was a time warp were it not for the heavier, more modern instrumental sound. The bassist and keyboards man are your usual Texas longhair slobs, but they’re now guys after all, and the pending addition of the Elevators’ original bassist should improve matters here.
An important point, though, is that it’s as far from necrophilia as you could hope for. When Roky Erickson mounts the stage in his psychedelic cape and Lou Reed shades you know it’s the real article, no tired nostalgic hokum whatsoever, and half of the Elevators’ stage repertoire consists of new originals: ‘Let It Burn’, ‘I Believe (In America)’, ‘True Love Cast Out All Evil’, ‘I Feel Good’. Remaining numbers include their most popular oldies (‘You’re Gonna Miss Me’, ‘Reverberation’, ‘Fire Engine’, ‘Splash 1′), with all but the hit improved over the original recordings, and various oddities, like ‘Sweet Little Sixteen’, a reworked ‘Lucille’ titled ‘My Maxine’, ‘Rainy Day Women #12 and #35′ and ‘It’s All Over Now Baby Blue’ (the latter two not so odd when considered that Roky is singing in a more Dylanish fashion than ever before).
So far the Elevators have yet to play the same set twice, with only one thing a certainty: that they’ll play ‘You’re Gonna Miss Me’ 2-3 times a night and give their old fans their money’s worth in spades. Now I ask you, when are the Jefferson Airplane gonna do that? Or the Stones? The most mesmerizing Elevators number of all – doubly so once I learned that they’d planned on including a half-dozen Holly songs in their repertoire until their manager talked them out of it – is a totally crazed combination of ‘I’m Going To Love You Too’ and ‘Peggy Sue’. If you’re familiar with the stories of how Black Oak Arkansas and Mouse & The Traps cut their teeth almost a decade ago doing Buddy Holly songs, you can imagine what it was like for me hearing for the first time the Elevators’ performance of this number, Roky Erickson screaming and shrieking in a fashion Buddy Holly never in his wildest dreams could have envisioned… Whoo!
At present the Elevators are cutting some tapes at local studios to send to record companies, hoping to hitch onto that road towards national recognition that eluded them the first time. To say that the group has strong recording potential would be an understatement; their new originals are quite good, and Roky Erickson remain one of the rock ‘n’ roll voices of all time. If no one signs them, it’s going to strengthen my lingering suspicion that the rock and roll drought of recent years isn’t necessarily due to lethargy in the music, but rather to simple A&R incompetence – most of these clowns at record companies just don’t know rock and roll when they hear it.
I mean just think about it. In 1966 most anyone could cut a record, mainly because there were so many countless small independents, but now you’ve gotta be a folkie, a mellow-brained Martin County refugee, a new heavy poet, an ex-sideman from someone’s ex-backing band…. Oh yes, a little rock ‘n’ roll in there somewhere, can’t overlook the cult audience.
Shit. Get the 13th Floor Elevators into a studio with someone like Rodger Bain, and you could have a whole new field overnight: acid metal. The possibilities are endless. Genuine comebacks are exceedingly in the rock world, but this is a real one, and I really hope it pans out. With the possible exception of the Bobby Fuller Four, the 13th Floor Elevators are the best, most original group Texas has ever had, and few bands anywhere deserve long-overdue success more than they do.
Metal Mike Saunders
Yoko Ono – “Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band” (1970)

Lester Bangs’ cautious, yet ultimately enthusiastic appraisal of Yoko’s first album. He obviously wasn’t a fan of everything she did, but he showed that he was one of the few people back then trying to seriously understand what Yoko was trying to do. Some critics got it. Most fans, coming from a Western music standpoint (and specifically Beatle music) completely didn’t get Yoko and simply dismissed her. Time has proven though that Yoko’s music, though clearly not for everyone, was groundbreaking stuff.
This review comes from Rolling Stone, March 4, 1971 (issue #77)…
Anyone performing avant-garde music is laying themselves open to a certain amount of hostility and derision at the outset. And if that person also happens to be Yoko Ono, who has not only displayed a gift for hyping herself with cloying “happenings” but also led poor John astray and been credited by more than one Insider with “breaking up the Beatles,” why, the barbs and jeers can only be expected to increase proportionately. Not only do most people have no taste for the kind of far-out warbling Yoko specializes in; they probably wouldn’t give her the time of day if she looked like Paula Prentiss and sang like Aretha.
On the other hand, not much of her recorded product inspires any sympathy. What it mostly inspires is irritation, even in hardened fans of free music and electronic noise. Two Virgins, Unfinished Music No. One, and the distinctly uncatchy Peace jingles on Wedding Album were the ego-trips of two rich waifs adrift in the musical revolutions of the Sixties, as if Saul Bellow had suddenly discovered the cut-ups of William Burroughs and recruited Lenore Kandel to help him forge them in the void.
Dilettante garbage, simply. The electronic/collage stuff, like the radio bit and the silent grooves, was a John Cage takeoff equaled by precocious teenagers with tape recorders everywhere, and the screaming had been explored much more effectively by Abbey Lincoln in Max Roach’s 1960 We Insist: Freedom Now Suite (ditto Yoko’s pre-/post-coital sighs) and Patty Waters in a weird 1965 ESP-Disk recording (a classic rendition of “Black Is the Color of My True Love’s Hair” which found her shrieking the word “black” through every possible distention for 15 minutes).
It wasn’t until the long freak-out on the back of the live Toronto LP that Yoko began to show some signs that she was learning to control and direct her vocal spasms, and John finally evidenced a nascent understanding of the Velvet Underground-type feedback discipline that would best underscore her histrionics. That record began to be listenable, even exciting, and the version of “Don’t Worry Kyoko” on the back of the “Cold Turkey” single was even better.
Now Yoko finally has an album all her own out, and it bodes well for future experiments by the Murk Twins along these lines. For one thing, Yoko has excellent backup this time: one track features an Ornette Coleman quartet, and the rest find John, Ringo and bassist Klaus Voormann working out accompaniments that are by turns as frenzied as Yoko herself and quite restrained. It always sounds thought-out, carefully arranged, appropriate; and with Yoko’s music that’s saying something.
Another strong plus is that all the songs are kept relatively short, make distinct statements, and seldom degenerate into the kind of pointless, prolix yammering that characterized her earlier work. In a way, the track with Coleman is the weakest: Yoko is into her “Ohh, John!” riff, and Ornette’s band is laying down the kind of a rhythmic noodling that seldom finds them at their peaks. It was a rehearsal tape anyway; what would be really nice would be to hear Yoko with new madmen the likes of Gato Barbieri and Mike Mantler.
The other tracks, however, are something else again. John’s guitar is strong and sizzling, a crazed file cutting through with some of the most eloquent distortions heard in a long time. He’s really learning this language now, and his singing high notes and guttural rhythms speak with the same authoritative voice he showed with the Beatles. And when he suddenly shifts down from those flurries into an expertly abstracted guitar line straight out of Chuck Berry (as in “Why”), it just takes your breath away.
There are also two experiments in electronics here: Side One closes with a haunting juxtaposition of “Tomorrow Never Knows” guitar and vocal sounding like one of the modal choirs off the Music of Bulgaria album electronically distorted; and “Paper Shoes” opens with tides of noise and railroad clacks, then moves into a sequence where Yoko’s voice, cut up by machine and melted into itself, flashes in weird echoes around the trestles.
This one will grow on you. They haven’t ironed out all the awkwardness yet, but this is the first J&Y album that doesn’t insult the intelligence—in fact, in its dark confounding way, it’s nearly as beautiful as John’s album. Give it a try, and at least a handful of listenings before your verdict. There’s something happening here.
Lester Bangs
Matthew Weiner – “Brian Eno and the Ambient Series: 1978-1982″ (2004)

Taken from Stylus magazine, Sept. 27, 2004, this article explores in depth Brian Eno’s Ambient recordins from the late-70s, early-80s. Interesting article although I disagree strongly with his assessment of My Life in the Bush of Ghosts (yes, it was controversial but it was still an amazing recording, and very much ahead of its time). I also disagree with views on Bill Laswell and his Celluloid imprint. Other than that, a very good article…
Much has been written about Eno’s pioneering Ambient Music—music “as ignorable as it is interesting.” But what was the pop egghead going for with his four-record ambient series? And was its legacy anything more than wanker chill-out records? More than a quarter-century since Music for Airports’ release, Matthew Weiner and Todd Burns put on their headphones and try to find out…
Question: What is a boring question?
Eno: One to which you know the answer.
Paul Morley’s liner notes to Eno Box II, 1993
For Brian Eno, the easy route simply couldn’t be trusted. It wasn’t so much that he was a masochist who liked to make things hard on himself as it was a mistrust, disdain even, for the obvious—according to his own mother, young Brian was “always looking for something different,” bored silly by everything else. And from hours spent as a young man messing with recordings of static on cassette players to his tenure with the willfully-amateur Portsmouth Sinfonia to his first gig as a feather boa-clad synthesizer provocateur with proto-glam outfit Roxy Music, the waifish, prematurely balding former art student relished the different, letting it guide his professional career.
Leaving Roxy after only two albums in the early 1970s, Eno proclaimed himself a “non-musician,” releasing a pair of quirky pop records on his own before unleashing Another Green World in 1975, a mysterious and ethereal long-player that arrived just as the music industry was collapsing in on itself—a victim of its own corporate bloat. Ironically, the record’s buzz transformed Eno into the industry’s hottest commodity, leading to production and collaborative offers from pop’s leading luminaries, with David Bowie only the most famous.
Logging an ever-increasing number of hours in the studio as he produced, wrote and experimented with recorded sound, Eno would devise ways to inspire himself and his collaborators. He found ways to “treat” acoustic sounds electronically, to give them a distinctive sheen. He devised the Oblique Strategies card set, a series of I Ching-derived aphorisms that guided the musician through the doldrums of the recording process. And he started the Obscure label, for which he could release and produce works by non-pop experimental artists like Gavin Bryars and Harold Budd. In almost every respect—whether it was his creative methods, his attitudes about marketing or his business practices—Eno was subverting the music industry—challenging it to be more interesting, stimulating and provocative.
For all his innovations and contributions to the working methods of pop, it was a series of four, coffee table-like records with which Eno would make his most profound mark. Over a period of three years, his once-frantic music had grown progressively quieter, more textural and somnolent, as if the compositional process had become one of elimination—a highly unconventional precept for pop in the Seventies. But the moment “1/1”’s round electric piano tones opened 1978’s Ambient 1: Music for Airports, Eno introduced to pop listeners an idea even more radical: that background music could not only be challenging if one so chose to listen to it, but it could also be of serious artistic consequence. To differentiate his work from Muzak, he called it, simply: “Ambient Music.”
In championing music you didn’t even need to pay much attention to—that was, as he famously put it in Airports’ liner notes, “as ignorable as it is interesting”—Eno was laying down a gauntlet of sorts by challenging the one thing The Beatles, Motown and the rest of the Sixties pop royalty had agreed upon: that music mattered—that they were aspiring to something important. In western music, such aspirations went back as far as Bach, who composed for the glory of God Himself—a pretension, of course, that Cage had punctured with his infamous ode to nothingness, “4’33.” But by proposing this notion not to academic eggheads but a pop audience in 1978 (then infatuated with the likes of Debbie Boone) that music was no more important than its surrounding environment—well, that was crazy talk.
As if to prove his point, Eno would undertake a similarly designed, sequentially-numbered, four record Ambient Series that studied the concept intensely—Music for Airports, Plateaux of Mirror (1980, with Harold Budd), Day of Radiance (1981, with Laraaji) and On Land (1982). While Airports’ may have sold nearly a quarter-million copies, with his findings on those records ultimately forming a critical template for much of today’s modern pop (his work with Bowie and U2 being but the most obvious), Eno himself rarely speaks about the Budd and Laraaji records in any detail, much less of his specific intentions for the series itself. As such, Ambient’s legacy remains largely misrepresented, leaving the series that started it all remarkably, if you’ll pardon the expression, obscure.
More than twenty-five years later, myths persist and questions remain—and they’re by no means boring.
Airport Access-Roads: Frippery, Discreet Music, and Another Green World
Like everything with Eno, it began with collaboration. Roxy honcho Bryan Ferry had introduced his foil to King Crimson guitarist Robert Fripp sometime in the early 1970s, and in 1972, the pair undertook their first effort together. Eno was anxious to use the collaboration to tap into his fascination with technology, in particular, how it could create things that did not exist in nature. For the recording that would later be released as No Pussyfooting, Eno would devise a system of two interlocking Revox tape decks that could repeat the incoming signal almost indefinitely; on tracks such as “The Heavenly Music Corporation,” Fripp spun sometimes-dazzling improvisations that lasted upwards near 20 minutes, ebbing and flowing as the pair built up layers of guitars, resulting in an impressive wash of electronic sound. Though perhaps a bit unaffecting, Pussyfooting was, by Eno’s measure anyway, a success.
But it was another three years and one infamous hospital visit later before the experiment began to pay dividends artistically for Eno. The story of Eno being struck by a cab in 1975, lying bedridden and immobile as a record of harp music played at barely-audible levels has been recounted several times over the years. The experience of listening to music as background created for Eno, “a new way of hearing music.”
And the results were immediate. By year’s end, Eno had released two records that would form two distinct components of the Ambient template. The first was Another Green World, ten tracks that were closer to brief instrumental sketches than the pop songs on which had made his name to that point. Not only was the self-proclaimed “sub-Bowie” leaving behind vocals for much of Green World, even more radically, there was little-to-no sense of linear development in many of the tracks; in fact, several sounded as if their length was arbitrary, or, as he put it, “just a chunk out of a larger continuum.”
Discreet Music (released a month after Green World on Obscure) was an altogether different beast, though it did share its predecessor’s somnambulant tones. Employing the Revox tape system he’d devised with Fripp, the 31-minute title track (“the longest I could get on record at the time”) created the illusion of direction, with gentle, synthesized flute loops piling on top of one another. But where Pussyfooting created a sense of (somewhat muted) harmonic development, on “Discreet Music,” that development begins from nothing but leads to nowhere. This was partly due to Eno’s limited choice in notes; where Fripp shifted modes during the songs’ duration by one writer’s account three times, often venturing outside those even, here Eno employs but six notes, chosen and positioned carefully so as not to create any sense of “groundedness.” Combined with Eno’s emphasis on equalization to subtly adjust the sonic timbre, the result is a sustained mood, but one that never quite resolves itself.
Both records advanced the idea of Ambient considerably. Eno would call a few of his later ambient records “the purest expressions of what I thought ambient music should be: endless, relatively unchanging moods.” A couple years and one last pop record later, he would pursue that ideal with a radical, unflinching vengeance.
Transit Soundtracks and “Serious Music: Music for Airports
In retrospect, Discreet Music and the Another Green World had made it increasingly clear that Eno was falling out of love with the song as a means of expression. Not that he’d abandoned pop; over the next 36 months, Eno would collaborate with German group Cluster; produced albums for Ultravox, Devo, the Talking Heads and David Bowie as well as recording his fourth and final pop album, the masterful (and not a little ambient) Before and After Science. But with the release of 1978’s entirely instrumental Music for Films (assembled largely out of Science outtakes), his interest in pop, insofar that it was anything more than a reliable paycheck that kept him constantly in the studio, was in obvious decline.
When Eno wasn’t in the studio, he could often be found flying to one, often across the Atlantic. Languishing one day in a Cologne airport in 1978, Eno found himself appalled by the “nervous” and “tingly” music being piped in through the PA. Doing little to put him at ease, he wondered what music might best replace it, realizing it would have to be something that could withstand constant interruption and mishearing. For the increasingly frazzled producer, preferably something calm and uplifting.
The Cologne episode arrived at a time when Eno was becoming increasingly aware of the effects music had on an audience’s mood. He was fascinated with how people in the Seventies were beginning to make choices about what they played in their homes and places of business based on “stillness, homogeneity [and] lack of variety.” To that point, such music had been the dreaded Muzak—as he put it in his next release’s sleeve notes: “familiar tunes arranged and orchestrated in a lightweight and derivative manner.” But what Eno was envisioning wouldn’t be finding its way into dentists’ offices, not anytime soon anyway. Rather, he hoped to placate the potential airport dweller into a calm state that would accurately represent the wonderment of being propelled into flight—an antidote to the disturbing, intrusive noise he endured in the Cologne airport. Music for Airports—it virtually titled itself.
Instead of “regulating” environments, as Muzak did by conforming them to one particular standard, Ambient music could enhance them, weaving in and out of the listener’s consciousness, as suitable for close examination as it was unconscious listening. Discreet Music had, by and large, functioned this way. But where that record had used equalization to draw out hidden melodies and textures, on Music for Airports, the technique was also used to enhance the low bass and high treble frequencies to allow airport patrons to carry on their conversations at normal volumes. This new music would be customized.
The idea of stretching music’s purpose beyond pure “enlightenment” had been kicking around for years in Eno’s head, as had different methods of creating it. Such notions had begun when he was still in school; where his pop music had been most obviously influenced by Sixties royalty—The Velvet Underground, The Beatles and so forth—Eno had long drawn on his years in art-school for many of his ideas. Perhaps surprisingly to some, the future “non-musician” had, in fact, studied avant-garde composition. It was in college that Eno was first exposed to “serious” composers like Terry Riley and Steve Reich, whose minimalist tape-loop piece, “It’s Gonna Rain,” showed the young student that “variety [could] be generated by very, very simple systems.” There, he had performed La Monte Young’s “X for Henry Flynt,” where the performer is instructed to produce an “unspecified sound over and over for an unspecified interval of time.” In fact, in his very first public performance in 1967, Eno performed the “Flynt” for an hour, pounding piano clusters with his elbow, realizing how the slightest variance was magnified by reiteration. It would later inform one of the most cherished axioms in his Oblique Strategies set: “Repetition is a form of change.”
Though the ideas of Young, Reich and Riley had certainly contributed to No Pussyfooting and Discreet Music, it was Music for Airports on which Eno would debut a systematic approach to composition that consciously mimicked the composers’ methods. One track, “1/2,” was composed of 22 tape loops of varying lengths, set to run in the studio for the duration of the piece. The tape loops, each of a length between 50 and 70 feet, essentially composed the track for Eno as he stood by and recorded the results. By virtue of constructing the tape loops beforehand, he had a general idea of what the result would ultimately sound like, at the same time allowing chance to enter into the picture as well. Though the academic establishment might not have approved of Eno deleting one stray piano note which didn’t quite sound right (he was a pop musician, after all), it didn’t change the fact that “1/2” and the rest of Airports were easily among the most avant-garde creations in pop to date—and barring perhaps only The Beatles’ “Revolution 9,” probably its most widely disseminated, ultimately selling a quarter-million copies.
Despite its commercial success, five years of near- unanimous critical adulation came to a crashing end with Music for Airports, with more than one past champion calling his new ideas “unoriginal” and the resultant music “a bore.” In fairness, they weren’t wrong on either count; for the first time, Eno was wearing his pretensions on his sleeve (literally, considering Airport’s dry liner essay). Musically, the record was equally arid—overlong, brutally repetitive, much of it sounding like the cutting-room floor scraps from a rejected Paul Bley ECM release. Only album-closer “2/2,” with its synthesized saw wave trumpets lapping at one another, did Eno achieve his goal of creating music as interesting as it was ignorable.
Still, possibly for the novelty of it all, Music for Airports was ultimately piped into New York’s LaGuardia airport for a spell during 1980. And the record’s real achievement was considerable. For all its theoretical unoriginality, Airports represented the most fully realized appropriation yet of avant-garde sensibilities and methods by a pop musician—a fact that did not go unnoticed (consciously or otherwise) by other pop musicians, particularly those looking to make their own mark in punk’s wake during 1978.
In any event, Ambient 1: Music for Airports was but the first in a series. “My intention,” Eno wrote in the record’s liner notes, his nose presumably facing north, “is to produce original pieces ostensibly (but not exclusively) for particular times and situations with a view to building up a small but versatile catalogue of environmental music suited to a wide variety of moods and atmospheres.” He would soon discover prescribed forums for listening were somewhat impractical to the casual listener who, it should be remembered, remained his target audience. And so Eno’s idea of Ambient would transform once again, this time from soundtracks for specific places to imagined ones—inarguably, a much better fit for his conception of the genre. Once more, he realized that being a pop musician traveling in academic circles had its advantages.
The Plateaux of Mirror / Day of Radiance: “Eternally Pretty Music,” New Age, and Imprints
Having established the Ambient genre with Music for Airports, Eno quickly set about the task of establishing its custom record label. Airports had not only been Eno’s first “true” ambient record, it was also the inaugural release for his Ambient Records imprint. He would later dismiss his second experience as a label chief in less than five years, saying “Obscure [Records] was a label I formed with a set objective, i.e. to release records that would not otherwise have been released in the pre-indie climate of 1975. Ambient was not so much a label as a term I coined for my exploring music that was as ‘ignorable as it was interesting’.” But it was undeniable that Eno had real aspirations for the label, however minor, securing distribution through PVC Records.
In any event, Eno took the opportunity with his new label to work with an artist from his last one. Harold Budd and Eno shared an art school pedigree, with Budd having studied music theory at Los Angeles Community College following stints in jazz bands throughout his teens. But as Budd’s musical palette began to expand, he, too, became fascinated by visual art—taking a particular shine to the paintings of 20th Century abstract impressionist, Mark Rothko. Budd was mesmerized by the trance-like qualities in Rothko’s color field paintings—qualities he began to approximate musically, much as composer Morton Feldman had done.
Composer Gavin Bryars introduced Budd to Eno after the latter had heard a tape of the sketches that would eventually become Budd’s first album, Pavilion of Dreams. Eno agreed to produce the record, releasing it on Obscure. It would be one of the only pieces of Western music that he took on a four-month trip to Thailand in 1979.
He described his fascination with Budd to Mojo in 1998. “[H]is way of composing was to write a piece of music, then take out all the notes you didn’t like!” What intrigued him about Budd was how even though he had started in “hardcore” classical minimalism, the composer’s career trajectory was moving away from “the standard NEA minimalism, that style of music guaranteed to get you a grant from the National Endowment for the Arts, because it’s totally respectable, modern, defensible and unobjectionable.” Having flirted with such dogma himself on Airports, Eno was determined to explore a new area of interest on his next ambient record.
By the time he returned from Thailand, Eno had a pretty clear idea about what form his second Ambient Records release would take. To start with, he wouldn’t be playing much on The Plateaux of Mirror; barring a synthesizer pad here and there, it was by and large Budd’s piano that would be front and center.
For another, Budd’s playing would be largely improvised. The hitherto studio-bound Eno told Sound-on-Sound: “I was never interested in improvisation really before [working with Budd], but I liked very much his approach to starting with a very small set of possibilities and then improvising around them.” What appealed to the studio colorist most was the idea of working within a “restricted palette” and exploring all its combinations.
Eno described the working situation thusly: “By and large he made the music, I the sound. There was a little bit of overlap: sometimes I would suggest editing something or repeating a passage, and sometimes he would suggest some aspect of sound.” And the process was equally unfamiliar to both of them. “I used to set up quite complicated treatments and then he would go out and play the piano,” Eno later said. “And you would hear him discovering, as he played, how to manipulate this treatment. How to make it ring and resonate. Which notes work particularly well on it. Which register of the piano. What speed to play at, of course, because some treatments just cloud out if they have too much information in them.”
The result contrasted sharply from Pavilion of Dreams. Where that record had indulged in an excess of sleigh-bells and piano trills, on Plateaux, Eno and Budd stripped away the extraneous elements, reducing the compositions to their essential elements, which was generally Budd’s heavily-treated piano.
Perhaps more importantly, the tracks’ development was neither harmonic nor melodic, but timbral. It was in the tone color and treatment of the melodies themselves where Eno sought the most variation—in some ways a return to his equalization work on Discreet Music. The difference in this case was that the instrument being treated was by and large acoustic, which appealed to the sound-sculptor in Eno. With free rein to construct far ranging melodic lines on electric and acoustic pianos, Budd explored his full range of interests on the record as well, inserting Feldman-esque punctums here, Satie-esque tinkles there—even sounding a hint like ECM’s Pat Metheny Group on the record’s title track, with its Rhodes piano, chromatic major-9 harmonies and pseudo-Brazilian percussion.
But for all its variety and glacially descriptive titles (such as “Wind in Lonely Fences,” and “Among Fields of Crystal”), there’s a sense with The Plateaux of Mirror that the pair couldn’t quite settle on what it was they wanted stylistically. While “First Light” and “An Arc of Doves” are lovely evocations of solace, others tracks plod rather than glide, while the wordless vocals on “Not Yet Remembered” serve to interrupt, rather than enhance, the overall mood.
Plateaux wouldn’t be Eno and Budd’s last collaboration, however. From his work with German keyboard duo Cluster, Eno had learned one of his most treasured axioms: “If at first you don’t succeed…” It may not have wound up in his Oblique Strategies set, but if 1977’s aimless Cluster and Eno and the following year’s remarkable “By This River (The Son’s Room),” were any indication, persistence paid off for Eno when it came to having difficulty playing with others—sometimes it was just a matter of trying again.
Similarly, Eno’s second collaboration with Budd, 1984’s The Pearl, sounds more uniform stylistically and, as such, more fully realized. It is today regarded quite correctly as one of Eno’s best works.
And then, there was this—performed solely by nomadic zitherist/comedian Edward Larry Gordon (“Lar-ah-jee” – getit?). Before Eno came upon him one day busking in New York City’s Washington Square Park, the native Philadelphian had tried a bit of everything in his 38 years—having acted and studied music, leading him to perform in amateur orchestras and choirs, playing everything from classical music to show tunes to jazz fusion. For all his experience, it was the zither in which he found a quasi-spiritual outlet for his music proclivities, releasing his first LP, the groovily-named Celestial Vibration, as he played for dollars on the streets of New York.
Laraaji was not the only unknown to Eno that day; in the zither—a broadly-used term which encompasses 30- or 40-stringed instruments like the dulcimer and the autoharp—Eno had found an instrument that offered both an exotic flavor and a harmonic richness ripe for electronic alteration; one can easily imagine Eno leaning over to drop a dollar in Laraaji’s open instrument case while dreaming of what his EMS suitcase synthesizer could do with those endlessly ringing overtones. As such, he reportedly offered to produce the musician on the spot.
The result would be without question the most unique release in Eno’s catalogue. Like the Budd collaboration, Eno’s role on Day of Radiance was more akin to that of a producer—albeit one closely involved in creative decisions. The album is divided into variations on two themes: “Dance” and “Meditation.” The first two variations of “Dance” feature Laraaji playing rapid and hypnotic rhythmic patterns on the dulcimer only slightly affected by Eno’s treatments. But by “The Dance #3,” the producer’s sensibility begins to creep into the proceedings. Where the earlier tracks added phasing and echo delay effects to the zither, spreading the hammered instrument’s sharp attacks wide across the stereo spectrum, here the tape is slowed down significantly, resulting in resonances that are deep and in some places harsh and distorted, constituting what are probably the least “ignorable” moments of the Ambient Series. The two pieces of the flip side (“Meditation”) continue in this more consciously electronic vein, focusing on the somnolent drift of the zither as Eno electronically alters the instrument’s long decays—not unlike the experiments jazz guitarist Pat Metheny was conducting around the same time with his custom-made 15-string harp guitar. The ethereal sound that resulted would soon be referred to under a moniker that Eno would come to take as an insult when used to describe his own music: “New Age.”
Of the genre, he would later tell Mark Prendergast: “I find it spineless and too ’secure.’ There is no thrill for the listener.” The synthesizer pioneer was offended by the “mindless use of electronics that current technology has given birth to—it has become very easy for anyone to produce a tape of blurring noises mixed with ‘pretty’ sounds and call it New Age.”
However much disdain he expressed for New Age, however, in this case of Day of Radiance, the label was not entirely unwarranted. Until this point, Eno’s work had always made a point of challenging the natural sound world—his treatments emphasizing artificial shapes and colors in otherwise unremarkable instrumental textures. Whether it was treating a Robert Fripp guitar solo with digital feedback, muting the upper frequencies of a bass drum on a Talking Heads album, or altering the vocal line in Music for Airports to give it an unnatural hiss, the idea of treating a sound electronically was to reshuffle the sonic deck a bit, giving the final product a distinct, unique sound. New Age, by contrast, had no such ambitions; almost willfully anti-intellectual, New Age artists made listless, unobtrusive music, emphasizing homogeneity but also a particularly empty form of spirituality. It created not a space to think, but space out. In other words, Muzak for hippies.
Despite Eno’s best efforts, Day of Radiance would prove to be just that. Here, the otherworldly treatments that gave Music for Airports and The Plateaux of Mirror both a tension and alien quality are buried amidst the relentless prettiness of the lapping major chords. As such, while not entirely devoid of charms, the record exposed the limits of surface attraction in Ambient. The Laraaji collaboration may have been a minor failure, but it was a mistake Eno was determined to learn from.
On Land, Fourth World, and Imagination on Tape
“We were making music to swim in, to float in, to get lost inside.”
At the dawn of the Eighties, Brian Eno’s prevailing interests were no longer western, much less pop. Ironically, 1980 had been the high-water mark of Eno’s pop production career to that point; the year had seen the release of such exotic masterpieces as Talking Heads’ seminal Afro-funk appropriation, Remain in Light, and the producer’s critically hailed “Fourth World” collaboration with avant trumpeter, Jon Hassell, which presented an imaginary electro-acoustic landscape suggestive of foreign cultures unknown to western ears. The hard work paid off; although utterly bored by pop’s “progressively insular” tendencies, Eno found himself the toast of the critical cognoscenti.
Such recognition did not come without its price, however. A year before the success of Remain in Light would elevate Talking Heads to a place among pop’s elite, Hassell (then a struggling composer in Soho’s ultra-hip loft scene) had turned Eno and head Head David Byrne on to African and world musics with recordings from the French Ocara label. They inspired an idea: “fake ethnic music.” That it might already have been explored by The Residents’ on their Eskimo and on Can’s Ethnological Forgery Series didn’t seem to faze them; as such, the project went ahead as planned and plans were drawn up for the trio to record somewhere out in the California desert. But while Hassell was waiting back in New York for the call to fly out and add his parts, little did he know that Eno and Byrne had gone ahead with the project without him. When he eventually heard the results, the trumpeter was aghast at what he perceived to be an obvious theft of his Fourth World concept: “found sounds” like tapes of evangelists, radio call-in shows and Lebanese mountain singers—worst of all—set to a chattering funk beat. He dismissed the whole matter as two egos out of control, saying “I imagine it went something like, ‘We’re rich and famous…we can get away with it, so we’ll do it.”
And Hassell wasn’t alone in his disgust. The estate of evangelist Kathryn Kuhlman forbade Eno and Byrne from using her voice, forcing them to re-record one track; the pair’s English distributor insisted the pair drop another from the record’s UK release due to the inclusion of a potentially blasphemous recording of Muslims chanting the Koran. Though in truth a prescient example of hip-hop sound splicing, all the legal scrambling (and perhaps a bit of karma) forced the release of the record, by now titled My Life in the Bush of Ghosts, back almost two years to 1981.
All was not lost, however. In preparing the record, Eno had traveled to Ghana with a stereo microphone and tape recorder in tow, with the intention to record indigenous music and speech patterns. Eno would later write, in a moment of clarity that recalls the hospital visit in 1975 that produced Discreet Music:
What I sometimes found myself doing instead was sitting out on the patio in the evenings with the microphone placed to pick up the widest possible catchment of ambient sounds from all directions, and listening to the result on my headphones. The effect of this simple technological system was to cluster all the disparate sounds into one aural frame; they became music.
Of course, the context for those sounds in the final product was important. “If you take a photograph of something, you don’t take a photograph of everything you can see,” he would later tell Modern Recording & Music. “You make a selection and you put a frame on it. When you frame something, you do something very distinct to it—you separate it from the rest of the world and you say, ‘This deserves special attention.’” Listening to the wide stereo spectrum of nature recordings also encouraged his efforts to create what he would later call “virtual spaces.” Where the trend in pop recordings in the late-1970s had been towards producing artists in audio verité—that is, exactly as they would sound in person—Eno was taking exactly the opposite tack, fashioning sound spaces that did not, and sometimes simply could not, exist in nature.
And perhaps the charges of cultural imperialism directed at Byrne and him over Bush of Ghosts weren’t so draining after all. In weathering them, Eno came to recognize, perhaps unconsciously, that regardless of the enormous power the recording studio offered, the issue wasn’t so much whether it was “right” or “wrong” to separate sounds from their natural contexts—rather, it was that separating the two just wasn’t always possible. Armed with those twin notions—that one could “listen to the world in a musical way” and that sounds were imbued with innate meaning—Eno would set about working on the fourth and final in the Ambient Series proper, Ambient 4: On Land.
The result sounded nothing like its predecessors in the series. Gone were the glacial piano melodies of Music for Airports and Plateaux of Mirror; in their place were virtual ecosystems: murky drones and ambient noises like frog croaks, rattling chains and bells. Spurts of melody would bubble to the surface but only occasionally – and then usually courtesy of bassist (and future Ambient impresario) Bill Laswell and Jon Hassell, whose whirring, buzzing trumpet makes a delightfully creepy guest appearance on “Shadow.” Laswell would later tell writer/composer David Toop of the experience helping Eno in the studio one summer in New York: “We would go to Canal Street and we’d buy junk—those hoses you twirl around—and gravel, put it in a box and put reverb on it. All these weird things to make sounds. We’d be in this bathroom with these overhead mikes, making sounds for days.”
By immersing himself in sound, he was also abandoning the last links to linearity in his music – in truth, one of Eno’s goals for Ambient at least as far back as Discreet Music. But Music for Airports had proven how difficult that was to achieve. Melody was a horizontal creation—one note following another. And regardless of how many times a melody was repeated (and Airports’ “1/1” certainly repeated its melody many, many times), its essential horizontality would never change—Oblique Strategies axioms be damned.
Harmony, of course, was another story—though in the case of On Land, Eno wasn’t so much stacking harmonic intervals as he was sounds. By weaving dense sonic tapestries that appeared static from afar but upon closer inspection were in a constant state of microscopic transformation, Eno was essentially forcing the audience to examine the broader soundscape—to pay attention not to horizontal development (one moment to the next) but to what writer Eric Tamm would refer to as the “vertical color of sound.”
Such intricate and sophisticated sound environments also allowed Eno to create an unprecedented sense of place in his music. Since 1978’s Music for Films, he had been naming compositions after locales recalled from his youth in England, often set to poignant, bittersweet music on piano and synthesizer. But with tracks like “Lizard Point,” “Lantern Marsh” and the languid “Dunwich Beach, Autumn, 1960,” the music itself began to specifically reproduce the sound and feel of their titular inspirations—or so Eno imagined. In the pamphlet that accompanied the 1986 reissue of On Land, Eno recalled the effect Fellini’s 1974 film, Amarcord had on his thinking—how he was inspired by the film’s unfaithful reconstruction of childhood moments to embark on an exploration of the “inaccuracies of memory,” creating what he told Musician was a “slightly thrilling sense that you’re almost in some other time, not quite in touch with the present.” And so while places like the real Lantern Marsh could be found near his childhood home, their musical renditions derived not from visiting them but rather spotting them on a map and “imagining where and what [they] might be.”
It was a bold idea. Running musical interpretations of half-memories and associations through echo effects, synthesizers and 70-second reverbs, Eno was turning the Bush of Ghosts controversy regarding the propriety of sound on its head, in essence, committing his memory of childhood to tape. It amounted to what Mark Richardson would later call “an exploration of a psychic landscape”—the sound of nighttime as a child “with the covers pulled over [your] head.”
On Land would prove one of Eno’s most sophisticated and mature releases—and a tidy summary of everything he had been working towards for half a decade. As such, it would also prove an ending of sorts for him and his Ambient Records series—if not his commitment to Ambient music. Given that he would release more than a dozen records that could be classified as ambient over the next two decades, Eno’s interest in Ambient as a genre was far from on the wane—if anything, it was just taking hold. The public? Well, that was another matter.
An Ending: Ambient, Pop, and Eno After the Ambient Series
“I like having ideas but I’m not particularly keen on flogging them to death.”
With On Land quickly (and somewhat obviously) regarded as the highlight of the Ambient Series, Eno saw little reason to continue it as such. In the years immediately following, though, he would release a steady stream of Ambient records before dipping his toe delicately back into pop with 1990’s Wrong Way Up. In that time he would release: 1983’s Apollo: Atmospheres and Soundtracks and Music for Films Vol. 2 (released as part of the Working Backwards 1983-1973 box), 1984’s The Pearl, 1985’s Thursday Afternoon, and Music for Films Vol. 3.
It was easy to see why Eno had called the series to an end. Where each series record proper had staked out utterly new ground musically, compositionally and stylistically, much of his subsequent output was less concerned with innovation than it was refinement. The Pearl, in particular, proved a significant improvement over his previous collaboration with Harold Budd, Ambient 2: The Plateaux of Mirror. Apollo conjured the appropriate level of drift in Ambient, though it was perhaps a touch too melodic in the wake of the hyper-alien worlds of On Land. And the two Music for Films records were, like the first volume, Ambient-ish, if perhaps a touch too teleological (and again, melodic) to be considered the real McCoy. In any event, there’s a sense with Eno that film music doesn’t quite qualify as “Ambient” per se, dependent as it is on its sister medium to grasp fully.
In many respects, the sixty-one minute Thursday Afternoon rolled the entire Ambient Series into one. As Mark Richardson pointed out, he returned (and not for the last time) to the tape-loop process music that spawned Discreet Music and Music for Airports. The soundworlds of Plateaux and Radiance are conjured with the track’s aimless piano chords, synth pads, organ swells, and relentlessly pleasant G-major pedal. Yet with bits of white noise weaving in and out of the mix and Eno’s constant manipulation of the piano in the stereo soundfield, there is little doubt that he could have made Thursday Afternoon prior to On Land.
Eno had said everything about his musical heritage on Music for Airports and his personal heritage with On Land, with the intervening records providing something of a gateway between the two. With the series, he created a template for others—what Paul Morley called “a platform upon which fantastic lies can grow.” For the time being, however, such lies would be of the “white” variety—that is to say, pleasant but not all that extraordinary.
Dance, Drugs, and the “Godfather” of Ambient
Leave it to the club-goers to bring a good idea to the masses. In the late 1980’s, Paul Oakenfold recruited former Killing Joke roadie Alex Patterson to DJ at his London club, Heaven. There, the one-time A&R man for Eno’s EG label quickly made his reputation in the club’s “chill-out room,” layering the likes of Eno and early Tangerine Dream records with samples of other songs and NASA recordings—all underpinned by thick and soft beats. It was a mind-numbingly simple formula, but for “Dr.” Alex Patterson, as he came to call himself, it was all about providing a soothing agent to ravers slowly coming down off their ecstasy-induced highs. Spawning a partnership with KLF/Justified Ancients of MuMu star, Jimy Cauty as The Orb, Patterson would fashion what the press release for their debut billed as “ambient house for the E Generation.”
And like that, the ultra-modern genre was off and running—for about five years. Bringing along prog rock refuge, Steve Hillage, and the dub-wise Jah Wobble, The Orb’s “Blue Room” represented the apex of ambient house in 1992. And for all its musical and aesthetic crudeness, Eno himself must have approved: at 40-minutes, the song was the longest track in British chart history to enter the Top Ten. Further, it spawned a legendary avant-garde Top of the Pops performance where Patterson and Hillage played 3D chess while video footage of dolphins and an edit of the track was projected in the background. Alas, two years and umpteen Orb collaborators later, Patterson’s innovations had run their course, ending in a haze of marijuana smoke and discarded instructional records. But they had certainly made a mark.
One person who was keeping an eye on Patterson was former Eno collaborator and super-producer, Bill Laswell. Like Eno, he had started his own label in the 80’s, Celluloid, on which he recorded Fourth World-inspired super-jams that fused everything from early hip hop, electro and world music to jazz, funk and spoken word. An attractive idea on paper, the reality was that most of Laswell’s experiments were disastrous exercises in bad taste. To make matters worse, Celluloid lay in ashes.
Not that Laswell cared. With a Rolodex that read like a who’s who of critical favorites—P-Funk alumnus, Middle Eastern violinists, reggae rhythmitists, classic rock heroes, and heavy metal showstoppers—the producer Simon Reynolds would later call “leftfield music’s most assiduous networker” had a new idea in mind. Forming the newly- (and pointedly-) christened Axiom Records in 1990, he seized on the recent innovations of ambient house, believing it the ideal broth into which he could stir his fusion experiments.
In truth, Axiom was every bit the train wreck his already-dated Celluloid work had been. The compilation Axiom Ambient (1994) showed in the starkest of terms the fallacy of Laswell’s conception, its liner notes an almost laughable excursion into new age exotic fetishism. Eno had understood that one of the keys to making Ambient as interesting as it was ignorable was maintaining a sense of unresolved tension—be it in the harmony (“Discreet Music,” “Thursday Afternoon”), the arrangement (On Land’s virtual environments, the subtle instrumental touches on Plateaux), or sometimes even the melody (Apollo’s quivering and brilliant exercise in varispeed, “Stars”). For Laswell, Ambient was no more complicated than in smothering utterly disparate musics in reverbs and dropping a beat and a bassline under it.
Laswell wasn’t the only one taken in by ambient house’s promise of tearing down decades-old stylistic and cultural boundaries. Legions of ambient house acts burst onto the scene in the early 90s: Ultramarine, Future Sound of London, System 7—even Paul McCartney got into the act with his collaboration with Orb-sideman Youth on his Fireman project. Slowly the genre began to mutate into a sort of armchair techno produced by the likes of Aphex Twin, Seefeel and Boards of Canada, where the music itself was that much more sophisticated—its rhythms programmed and textures more detailed and refined.
And electronica exploded. Germany’s Oval churned out records that consisted of samples made from skipping CD’s. Artists such as Christian Fennesz created dense tapestries of electronic texture that could go on infinitely. The German Kompakt and French Perlon labels released record after record of the newly-minted microhouse genre, where variation is created in the subtle sonic mutation of oft-repeated samples. The former even had a so-called Pop Ambient series. Based appropriately in Cologne, the label featured artists like Olaf Dettinger and Ulf Lohmann creating prickly and uncomfortable ambient pieces that evoke not uplifting themes and solace, but dread.
Electronica artists were exploring the most intricate components of sound itself—and influencing others higher up in the pop food chain—David Sylvian, Bjork and countless others. By crossing over into the college market, electronica firmly established what Ambient had posited two decades earlier—that music didn’t need to “develop” along traditional lines to be engaging. The idea was out at last, the theory proven.
Ironic then, that the man who started it all—possibly the ultimate painter in sound—has displayed an almost comical aversion to texture in his own music in recent years. Perhaps not coincidentally, Eno has fostered a rekindled interest in the compositional process. On records such as 1997’s seemingly listless The Drop, he returns to the irregular looping system that produced Music for Airports, but this time looping not the melody but the rhythms. The result was what Ian MacDonald deemed “thunderingly boring,” “virtually devoid of harmonic life” and, perhaps more importantly, missing “his water-colourist sensitivity to atmosphere, landscape and mood.” But perhaps it was merely his way of responding to those who had found his earlier music so texturally fascinating while ignoring the other lessons of Ambient entirely.
But one supposes that Eno would have it no other way. Far from being protective of the genre that he single-handedly created with the Ambient series, Eno always knew and was excited about the possibilities that existed for future investigation: “I was always very confident this is one of the ways music would go,” said Eno in 1995. Of course, he was right. We’re just busy catching up.
Matthew Weiner
Al Green – “Lay It Down” (2008)

Another review taken from the Black Grooves website. This time written by Craig Werner, dated July 18, 2008. This is probably Al Green’s best album in 30 years and one of the great soul albums of the ’00s…
Al Green’s status in the pantheon of African American music is beyond question. The albums Green released in the 1970s – Let’s Stay Together, Call Me, Al Green Explores Your Mind and Al Green Is Love - stand beside the classics of Stevie Wonder, Earth Wind & Fire, and Aretha Franklin as the sounds that defined a musical era. With the release of The Belle Album in 1977, Green turned away from secular stardom and devoted the next two decades to his spiritual calling, pastoring the Full Gospel Tabernacle Church in Memphis. Green continued to make good music, earning eight Grammy awards for his gospel performances, but only hard core gospel fans would dispute the notion that Green’s most important work is 30 years in the past. His two “comeback” albums, I Can’t Stop (2003) and Everything’s OK (2005) had the feel of more-than-competent exercises in nostalgia rather than music that had to be heard.
In an interview with Wax Poetics (no. 28, 2008), hip-hop drum legend Ahmir “Questlove” Thompson states that, when he entered the studio to begin work on Green’s new album, Lay It Down, his intention was to make ” the thirty-year follow-up to the Belle record.” Sharing production duties with Green and virtuoso R&B keyboardist/producer James Poyser, Thompson at least came close to realizing his goal. Where most cross-generational collaborations between hip hop and soul artists have suffered from their obvious, and doomed, desire to make the elders sound hip, Lay It Down contents itself with the classic soul virtues of emotional and musical depth. “The thing that I find missing from music today,” Questlove observed, “is the feeling. That, to me, is the most important ingredient missing from the soul-food platter today.”
To capture that feeling, Questlove and Poyser (best known for his work with Erykah Badu, Common, Jill Scott, Anthony Hamilton, and Mariah Carey) convinced Green to explore a more improvisatory process than the one he developed with long-time producer Willie Mitchell in the 1960s and 1970s. Working with a first-rate band including guitarist Chalmers “Spanky” Alford and bassist Adam Blackstone, Questlove and Poyser organized free-form sessions, letting the tape run no matter what was going on. Where in the past Green had worked mostly from composed charts, the songs on Lay It Down emerged from the give-and-take between the musicians. “Al Green could give most freestyle rappers a run for their money,” Questlove observed. “The energy and excitement that you hear in his voice, him ad-libbing to himself, talking to us, laughing, that’s just genuine excitement of what he never knew was still around, which was the feeling of the music.”
Here is a a behind-the-scenes look at the making of Lay It Down:
You can hear the excitement from the first bars of the title cut, which opens the album. The sound is classic soul: simple guitar line, bass and drums hitting the rhythms with unforced precision, the Dap-King horn section smoothing the way for Green’s vocal entry. Anthony Hamilton, one of three young R&B artists who makes a guest appearance on the album, provides perfect harmonic and emotional counterpoint. The best thing you can say about “Lay It Down” is that you could put it on The Belle Album and no one would notice the change. That’s not to say it’s derivative. Nothing on Green’s classic albums felt like it was copying anything else. The highlights include both ballads-the title song and “Take Your Time” (featuring Corrine Bailey Rae)-and funky up-tempo cuts “I’m Wild About You” and “Standing in the Rain,” both powered by Questlove’s virtuoso drumming.
Lay It Down won’t replace Al Green Explores Your Mind on anyone’s heavy-listening rotation, but, unlike the vast majority of new releases by the singers of Green’s generation, it won’t gather dust on the shelf.
Craig Werner
Ben Fong-Torres – “Knockin’ on Dylan’s Door” (1974)

Rolling Stone article from Feb. 14, 1974. Dylan had only recently returned to recording and touring again full time, with the help of The Band. Ben Fong-Torres finds him at this moment…
There’s still a message. There’s always a need for protest songs. You just gotta tap it.
We are in Toronto the third stop of the Bob Dylan tour. Locked in by snow and still locked out, so far, from the inner circles of Dylan and the Band. I’m reduced to television in my hotel room. I choose Channel 6 and get Channel 79, where a newsy-talk program called The CITY Show named after the station’s call letters is on. For some reason, the moderator a sporty-looking fellow, 50 or so, looks familiar but the camera cuts to the program’s “youth reporter” whose report this evening is an earnest attack on Dylan, the tour and tour producer Bill Graham. He is asking where all the money is going; he is characterizing Dylan as a “manipulator” of his fans and the press, secreting himself from the public after that convenient little bike spill and, now, exploiting his absence from the scene. He also has heard that Dylan’s show is comprised mostly of older songs and this, too, is a pisser for him.
The moderator, the man with those penetrating, close-set eyes I’ve seen before, comes to Dylan’s defense.
“I believe there’s a freedom to just sit down if you want to,” he tells the kid. “The public doesn’t own Dylan; that’s why he appealed to you in the first place.”
As for Dylan’s manipulation of the media, he continues, “You know I don’t like to talk about my son too much on the air, but Neil has found that he’s not dependent on all this damned media coverage. [Now I recognize the gentleman: Scott Young, Neil's father and a newspaper columnist in Toronto.] Just a line in the papers is enough.
“Dylan is trying,” he says, “to reestablish that there still is a Dylan around.”
The next night, I met Dylan, bumping into him in the hallway up on his floor, and he agreed to talk – later, in Montreal. Three days later, in Montreal, 33 floors up at the Chateau Champlain, Bob Dylan sat across the table, at ease, in white western shirt and jeans, still sleepy at 3 PM, but willing to talk.
He’s always interested in what his audience is thinking, so I told him about the impression his new love songs seemed to be making. Critics — from Chicago through Philadelphia and Canada — were saying he’d mellowed out, “blunted his image,” “drained the venom from his voice.” He’d moved from urgent, surging metaphorical poetry to clinch-clichés, stereotyped images, and an emphatically-stated need for his loved one, a complete turn away from his previous posture of independence, individualism and defiance.
Of course, he’s played with such talk before. In “I’ll Be Your Baby Tonight,” he rhymed “moon” and “spoon.” In Montreal, just last night, between “Don’t Think Twice, It’s All Right” and “Gates Of Eden,” he told the audience, “That was a love song, and this one’s another love song.”
With a wife and five children, Dylan is being called a family man, or, as Jonathan Takiff, pop critic for the Philadelphia Daily News put it, “a Dutch uncle.”
“Yeah,” said Dylan. “But those things don’t make a person settle down. A family brings the world together. You can see it’s all one. It paints a better picture than being with a chick and traveling all over the world. Or hanging out all night.
“But,” he maintained, “I still get that spark. I’m still out there. In no way am I not. I don’t live on a pedestal.
“Fame threw me for a loop at first,” Dylan continued. “I learned how to swim with it and turn it around — so you can just throw it in the closet and pick it up when you need it.”
The turning point, he said, was in Woodstock, “a little after the accident. There I was, sitting one night under a full moon, I looked out into the bleak woods and said, ‘Something’s gotta change.’ There was some business that had to be taken care of, that we don t have to go into.” I nodded, not mentioning the breakup with manager Albert Grossman, but reminding him of the problems he’d had fulfilling contracts for a book and a TV special.
“It was too much,” he said. “It finally broke the camel’s back. Now it’s the same old me again.”
Whatever that may be.
One of the reasons for following Dylan around, even if ultimately you learn that he’s just the same old him, is that so many people are looking for so much from the drifter’s return — for some kind of statement, either from the mere act of his reemergence or from something that the new Dylan may have to say. But too many of those that are filling up the papers and the a airwaves with their Dylanologies never heard, really heard, the man in the first place, or refused to accept what they heard: “It’s not to stand naked under unknowing eyes/It’s for myself my friends my stories are sung,” he sang, in “Restless Farewell,” even before “My Back Pages.”
Dylan says he’s touring only because he wants to play his music for the people. But the people, the papers say, want more than music. They want The Word. “I don’t understand that attitude,” says Robbie Robertson of the Band. “I don’t ever remember him ever delivering what they believed he delivered, or what they think he’s going to deliver now. I mean, I heard a lot of terrific lines and songs. He certainly had a way of saying something that everybody felt, a way of phrasing it and condensing it down. But people have a fictitious past in mind about him.”
I agreed. But even if I, for one, never saw Dylan as a messiah, idol, prophet, leader, or even a particularly great singer, I must admit, as have other journalists (whose style it is to not confess such things) that Dylan has touched me. And the nerve that was hit ties somehow back to the Sixties. During the second show in the Chicago Stadium, near the end of “It’s Alright Ma (I’m Only Bleeding),” it hit. It wasn’t the song, a simple enough affair over an even simpler acoustic guitar run that did it. For me, Dylan made a statement through a tone he was painting with his bitter-truth voice, a feeling of knowing resignation, the uplift deriving from the knowledge that here was a guy who’d seen it all, saw through it all, and… well, had a way of phrasing it, of condensing it down.
I watched this still-small, still-vulnerable figure behind his guitar, looking up and bawling, “I got nothing, Ma, to live up to,” and I shivered and thought of my brother Barry, a probation officer and community worker murdered in the summer of 1972, in the midst of the gang wars of Chinatown. He left a mother and father who cannot stop mourning, and when “It’s Alright Ma” pulsed through the verse.
While them that defend what they cannot see
With a killer’s pride, security
It blows the mind most bitterly
For them that think death’s honesty
Won’t fall upon them naturally
Life sometimes
Must get lonely
I found myself wiping away tears with an index finger and thinking something toward Barry, something excusably maudlin like “Can you see? Bob Dylan, someone you heard and liked a lot, is here.”
Later, talking with reporters from The New York Times and The Los Angeles Times, I learned that they, too, had had the chills. And in the next city, Jon Takiff — “Philadelphia’s Mr. Cynical,” the publicist for the Spectrum rock auditorium called him — would walk away from the press box and tell me that “Like a Rolling Stone” had made him cry. And all the lofty articles I’d read about Dylan, all the burdensome books, suddenly meant very little. I’d have to meet the guy for myself.
By Philadelphia, Dylan and the Band had their show pretty well set. The cluttered-attic look of the Chicago shows had been modified; Dylan and the Band came out strong, with six straight Dylan songs, concluding with Dylan cool-jerking the piano for “Ballad of a Thin Man,” followed by six Band tunes. Dylan returned for three more, finished up with “Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door.” An intermission of exactly 15 minutes was broken by Dylan’s return as a solo acoustic artist for about five numbers, ending with “It’s Alright, Ma.” The Band came back for three or four more, finishing up with “The Weight” from Big Pink, and Dylan returning with a couple of newer songs, from Planet Waves, and the finale, “Like a Rolling Stone.” And the encore was “Most Likely You Go Your Way (I’ll Go Mine).”
In Toronto, Dylan began to open and close the shows with “You Go Your Way.”
Dylan explained, simply: “It completes a circle in some way.” By Philadelphia, the sound and light crews were in control of each show. Eighteen men were on the road for this one, under employment by Bill Graham’s FM Productions. Now Graham is holding a post-concert session with lighting director Bruce Ball.
Graham has by now heard “It’s Alright, Ma” five times, and each time, “Even the President of the United States sometimes must have to stand naked” gets the biggest reaction of any line in the concert.
“Tell you what I’d like to try,” says Graham. “When Bob hits that line, how about switching to reds from overhead” — Graham sweeps a huge left arm out and down –”blues from the sides, and white spotlights directly onto him.” Bruce agrees to give it a try. And as corny as the idea may sound, it works, the colors spread out far enough apart to be subtle. It is, to be sure, a United States flag lit up by a thousand light bulbs.
But Toronto, the next stop, greets the effect, and the line, even with more detached amusement than determined agreement. Michael McClure has joined the tour now; together we will go after his old friend Bob Dylan. McClure is uncomfortable; in the snow-sludge-slop-shuffle outside, he has lost his scarf, without which his neck is incomplete; he is seated just below the bank of speakers perched atop a tower on one corner of the stage, and he’s got his ears finger-plugged to balance out the insistent highs. But he can still smell — “They’re smoking rubber marijuana here,” he says — and see. “You see how much cleaner these kids are?” No, I don’t. The poet/playwright picks out a row of three boys in Pendleton shirts. They are indeed clean shirts. “See? Canada hasn’t been fucked over by the War Machine.”
The Toronto audience is as respectful of Dylan as the States crowds, but even more attentive. There’s less of the screaming of requests during pauses between numbers; less of the demands for Dylan while the Band is doing one of their own sets. But of course, this is Band territory. CHUM, the FM rock station, even embraces Dylan, referring to him as being “from Hibbing, Minnesota, very close to the Canadian border.” Dylan himself, later, will admit a special feeling for Canada that gets him smiling a crack more onstage, gets him staying, twice one show, “Great to he back Montreal!” and singing a particularly strong and croony version of “Girl From the North Country.” Dylan, later, will explain, looking out the wall-wide arched window in his hotel room, out beyond the office buildings, into the bleak woods: “Canada seems to bridge a gap between the United States and Europe. It’s a certain flair. And this is where I come from, this kind of setting — lakes, and boats and bridges.”
In Toronto, before the first of the two shows there, I call on CHUM and find a Dylan freak named John Donebie, who remembers that Dylan’s been in town three times before, twice as a solo artist around ‘62 and ‘63, and, in 1966, with the Hawks, who got huffily dismissed by one local critic as “a third rate Toronto rock & roll band.” In fact, the Hawks — and it’s well known — came up as the backup band for Ronnie Hawkins, the Arkansas rockabilly singer who’d moved to Canada in 1960. (His hits were in ‘59 – “40 Days” and “Mary Lou.”) The Hawks, all from Canada, except drummer/Arkansas native Levon Helm, got tired of the roads they traveled, mostly in Southern states and along a short stretch of drink joints on Yonge Street in Toronto.
“You know,” says Donebie, “Hawkins is still playing at the Nickelodeon down on Yonge Street. He’s always there — or whenever he wants to play there, anyway. Just about owns the place. You ought to check him out.”
The Nickelodeon is an eat-drink-and-dance place, with pizza tablecloths, red flowery paper lamps, and a required coat check, just like in all the fancy restaurants in town. It feels like a hustler’s hall, a singles spot where, if you don’t score, there’s always Jingles upstairs, where you can take pictures of guaranteed naked ladies.
At the club, in a cluttered storage room full of discarded chairs, Hawkins was as hearty and jovial as ever.
“I was over at the hotel last night and we brought back memories for seven hours,” he said. And he saw the show tonight — “first time I’ve seen ‘em play since they left in 1965″ — and paid due compliments.
“They were always two years ahead of their time. Robbie was the first guy to get into white funk, in Canada or anywhere.” Hawkins urged me to stay, see if Levon shows up.
Minutes later, at 12:30, an hour and a half since the end of the Dylan concert, the Nickelodeon broke into applause and cheers. Levon, and Robbie Robertson, and Rick Danko, and Bob Dylan, and friends, had passed the checkroom, all their coats fur caps and mufflers intact. It was a nice little 39th-birthday present for Hawkins, and he leapt through the crowd to exchange warm greetings with Dylan, who wore shades and stayed mostly quiet through the night.
Hawkins jumped onto the stage with his latest congregation — a six-piece outfit that had Bill Graham nodding favorably — and told the buzzing crowd: “They came all the way from L.A. to hear me sing ‘40 Days!’”
Hawkins introduced a special number. “I remember Robbie called it one of Bob’s best songs at one time,” he said, and moved into a mellow country version of “One Too Many Mornings,” one of Dylan’s earlier true-love songs, from 1964. A couple of birthday dedications later, Hawkins was rolling through “Bo Diddley” and worked in a couple of verses of ” The Ballad of Hollis Brown;” Dylan nodded and smiled.
After Hawkins’ set, the crowd was quiet, a nickelodeon full of Dylan-watchers, picture-snappers. I got a good close-up look at him for the first time, and he looked tired, in no shape to be club-nobbing, but not unapproachable. Later, at two o clock, while the club tried to kick everybody out, Graham looked to be trying to set up a private jam session, talking soothingly to the people in charge. But they didn’t go for it, and Graham resigned himself to the usual a spread of food and wine on the artists’ floor at the hotel.
Bob Dylan has had reason to avoid Rolling Stone. We had been among the most critical about his recent albums; the most cynical about his motives for the tour, launched in combination with a new label deal and a new album. He didn’t need the media, didn’t want to do interviews, all reporters were told. And that word seemed to have spread effectively around the tour. In Toronto, one writer spent 18 column inches describing how he chased the Band’s equipment van from the Malton Airport halfway across town at a sometimes furious, Bullitt-pace before giving up. And at the Inn on the Park, before the first concert, another reporter spotted Dylan, in shades, at the hotel newsstand, leafing through a pube magazine called Success. Dylan denied that he was Dylan, but let a photographer take pictures. The reporter hit him up again, and Dylan, exasperated, told him, “Look, man, I’m not him.” Finally, a friend came and helped him escape.
Still, his most intimate protectors insisted, Dylan would be happy to have a chat… if you happened to run into him. Now, Graham invited us to join the post-concert nibbling and listening-to-the-new-album gathering, and at 2:30 AM, I entered the most boring hotel suite I’d seen since my own Holiday Inn room back in Philadelphia. McClure and Byall were having a chat on one couch; Barry Imhoff was eating a plateful of snacks, and a lone teenaged girl wandered around wondering what she was doing.
But soon enough, there was a burst of noise from the hallway and a gang of Band members and buddies were scurrying past, followed by Bob Dylan, still in shades. He made a turn toward the party room, stopped in front of me, and continued to yell, half-puzzled, half-joking, after the little mob.
My moment had come. I introduced myself, and he kept his smile on, as we shook hands. His was cold, offered downward, with not much of a grip. Then he excused himself, but promised, without my asking, “I’ll be right back and we’ll talk.” Ten minutes later, at 3 AM, we sat side-by-side in couches and talked; he’d read some of my stories; I’d heard some of his songs.
We chatted, in idle, for maybe ten minutes…”How’d you like the show?”…”Well, you see, I wasn’t feeling that great, I just had a flu shot today.”…”No, 18,000 people yelling isn’t that much of a thing. It’s nothing new. See, I used to sit in the dark and dream about it, you know. It’s all happened before”…and then I suddenly felt nervous, without a notebook and not quite sure what to say. I suggested an interview — say, maybe in Montreal, when he felt better. He agreed and I made my escape.
The next night, still in Toronto, Dylan looked better onstage, sporting a hat for the first time along with his by-now regulation black suit, twisting his left heel in time with “Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues,” working with organist Garth Hudson through “Ballad of a Thin Man,” and leaving the stage with a spread-armed curtsy. The Band seemed inspired, especially with a near-perfect reading of “I Shall Be Released” by Richard Manuel. As before, Dylan fluffed the second and third lines of “The Times They Are A-Changin’,” but the audience waited and roared for the main lines. On “Like a Rolling Stone,” the audience, in perfect unison, fast-clapped along with the song. This is the one song no one listens to, the Dylan anthem, the cause for celebration. The concert is marked down as the best since the second show in Philly.
And Toronto, for many of the Band, is home — or, at least, home enough so that the party after the show reminds one of Big Pink. In one room is a gathering of the next of kin, folks, stepfolks and friends. Full of etiquette — it is after midnight, after all — they are chatting and listening to Planet Waves on a cheap “compact” hifi borrowed from the hotel; “Tough Mama” is playing, and on the television (TV sets in touring rock stars’ hotel rooms are always on, no matter what’s happening in the room) is a movie starring Jimmy Stewart and some tough mama, a red fright-wigged woman wielding a shotgun, and as Dylan begins the final chorus, the woman blows up a houseboat, and Levon Helm and Rick Danko enter the room, listening to the music again, still loving it. Once again, Ronnie Hawkins and wife are part of the party; Gordon Lightfoot will drop in, too, and, out in the hallway, I run into Dylan again. I tell him I was thrilled, chilled again by his show; he mentions, again, how he’d had a flu shot and that’s why the previous night wasn’t so hot, and we affirm our plans to meet in Montreal.
The gathering is dissipating, and in another room, a drunken would-be groupie demands Dylan’s presence. She staggers around, going nowhere slow, until Dylan shows up, asking for a blanket. She shouts at him, and Dylan goes into his I-don’t-understand routine, slips into the bathroom and out again, before she notices. Later, Renee, a tall, blonde beauty, is talking with Robbie Robertson. Robbie, who looks years younger than he did in the Big Pink days, when his chin-thin beard, glasses and dark clothing gave him the look of a devout Russian Orthodox Jew, is listening attentively, like a priest. He seems to be humoring her, but no one can tell.
“I’m writing songs and I play guitar,” she tells him.
Robbie, in a light fauntleroy hat, reddish-plaid shirt and bell-bottomed overalls, lets his sleepy eyes widen and his mouth open, as if the news may yet bowl him over.
“Really?” he says. “Gee, you and I do the same things. What a coincidence.”
The woman has to leave. She has to go to work tomorrow morning. “But I don’t want to be a secretary all my life,” she tells Robbie. Robbie nods. He probably felt the same way 15 years ago, when he left school in Toronto to take up the guitar with the Robots.
I had met Robbie at the Nickelodeon; the next day, we met in his room and talked about the tour — how it started, exactly, how the Band felt being largely considered a backup, despite their co-billing and no matter how strong the applause at the end of each Band number and segment.
“We expected it,” he said, “because we know who Bob is, right? And because we also knew that it had been eight years since he had ever done a tour, and we knew it was going to be an incredible level of anticipation for his music. We just can’t… we have a job to do. You can’t say to yourself, ‘Oh, my god. Call Bob. Tell Bob he’s got to get back out here.’ The first time we played with him, when we walked out there, people would actually start booing and throwing things, so this is actually like a big, big departure. This is nothing, to have a couple of people yell, ‘Dylan!’”
The Band and Dylan, said Robertson, have always thought about touring since the last tour, in 1966. “We were going to do another one, and Bob had the motorcycle wreck. And for a long time it didn’t seem like a good idea to us at all. All of a sudden it started to become clear. There was a space, an opening, a necessity, almost, that just pulled you into it. It was no clever maneuver on anybody’s behalf to put the thing together, to expand our audience or get a few extra albums. Everybody just felt the same way at the same time.”
The impetus was a rock concert — the all-time biggest festival gathering, the 600,000-populated Watkins Glen festival.
“There was something different about it,” he said. “At Watkins Glen we were playing, and we would do little things, intricate, subtle things that the audience would react to that I’d never seen them react to before. There was an alertness to the audience that I could not believe.”
The whole thing is especially ironic because the Band is almost as reclusive as Dylan, having not played any dates for a year and a half before Watkins Glen, choosing to spend their time with families, working on albums, and playing with Dylan.
“We didn’t want to play Watkins Glen at all. We were in a mood; we thought tours, those things . . . it’s only the money, that’s the only reason that you do it. But we were talked into it. You know the Grateful Dead, the Allman Brothers, really terrific people, and it was just one of those [Robbie puts on a painful, friendly, urging voice], ‘Oh, come on… it’s just up the road. You don’t have to really go out of your way.’ You know. ‘Don’t be a spoil sport.’ That’s what happened.”
After the festival, an enthusiastic Robertson told Dylan about the new sensations he’d received. “And he went for it alt the way. He asked me more questions. And then for a year or two I was planning on going to Malibu; I was ready to leave Woodstock. When I went out there we picked up on our talks and at this point I was more advanced, and we were coming out with a more positive attitude.”
Now, on tour, did the Band and Dylan find confirmation for his feelings after Watkins Glen? “I don’t think it’s a similar situation,” said Robbie. “I don’t think it’s necessarily the same audience. I also think that the audiences on this tour are not quite able to relax either. I think they’re a little confused, a little nervous. I think they’re waiting so much for something in there that it really distracts from that other thing that was Watkins Glen.”
But the Band and Dylan are nervous, too, said Robertson, and that partly explains the lack of communication from the artists to the audience, beyond the music and a wave, a peace sign or a clenched fist here, a nod from Robbie’s guitar there. First, Robertson maintains, there’s no need to talk. You say hello by showing up onstage; you play familiar music and don’t need to introduce numbers. A new number from Dylan is obviously new. “So you’re kind of… it’s meaningless talk.”
“Just remember, when Bob first started to play, he used to do more talking than music. He used to just talk and talk and tell stories, jokes and carrying on, you know. It’s a different thing. And also, I think in his case, everybody takes it to such a degree that it’s embarrassing, almost, to say anything. I mean, they start, you know…”
To analyze what he meant by “We’ll be back in 15 minutes”?
“Right, they start counting to 15 backwards… they just take it and they get silly.”
One critic in Chicago, a man with a background in theater, accused Dylan of holding back and concluded: “Maybe Dylan just isn’t a performer.”
Dylan, in Montreal, responded: “They just don’t understand.” He shrugged his shoulders. “It’s got nothing to do with that kind of atmosphere. What the critics expect is what they expect. It concerns me more with getting it to the people.
“It’s basically music, not a music-hall routine.”
Another factor for the silence between numbers, said Robertson, is the group’s required concentration on the music at hand. A song changes from one night to another, said Robertson, and Dylan loves to pull surprises.
“He pulled one out of the hat last night, that we had never played, or ran over, or even considered: ‘It Takes a Lot to Laugh.’”
The Band and Dylan coarsely ran over some 80 numbers in one four-hour session, said Robertson, so that the show can change every night. But rehearsals, he said, were impossible. “For our situation and our mentality, it seemed so absurd to get into a room and run over ‘Positively Fourth Street.’ We’d go, ‘What is this? Remember the kickoff? Who cares what the kickoff was?’ You know. We just can’t approach it like that.”
Rehearsals began three months before the tour. “We sat down and played for four hours and ran over an incredible number of tunes. Just instantly. We would request tunes. Bob would ask us to play certain tunes of ours, and then we would do the same, then we’d think of some that we would particularly like to do. And when it was over, we said, ‘That’s it.’”
So, onstage, oftentimes a song will end quite abruptly; another may wheeze and fizzle to a tardy conclusion; Dylan will stop a number to change the beat.
Even while planning the tour, Dylan and the Band were nervous, said Robertson. “Not a real emotional nervousness, but also a physical endurance nervousness. Like Bob was saying, ‘Shit, I haven’t done nothing in eight years, all of a sudden I’m going to go out there and hit it for 40 concerts?’ We’re not really outgoing people,” Robbie said again, “we’re just not the kind of people that can — ‘Sure, turn us loose!’”
Enter Bill Graham, whom the Band had worked with for concerts, and David Geffen, chairman of Elektra Asylum Records, now Dylan’s label. When asked about how he got to know Robbie, Geffen replied: “He’s just my friend.” Robbie’s version had less of the hangout aura to it: “He called me up once, about nine or ten months ago. Just out of the blue, he said he wanted to see me. I talked to him and found him interesting, I thought he was in tune with today, now. He wasn’t relying on what it was, or he didn’t have ridiculous theories on what it should be.” What triggered the call? Was it just to get to know you?
“No, it was a business move.”
Robertson told Dylan about Graham and Geffen, Dylan approved, and the two went to work, convincing the group that if they were to avoid box-office riots, they had to play more than ten dates, and in larger-than-theater halls. It was also Graham who proposed the ticket prices (criticized in some cities as too high, averaging $8 and reaching a top of $9.50), and the Band and Dylan — who left all money matters to Graham and their various attorneys — agreed.
“The decision,” said Robbie, “was made by Bill and David, and they put their logic together and explained it to us. We left it up to them because they could be a little bit more objective than us. They would say, ‘Listen, Joe Blow gets $7.50. Just Joe Blow, so I would think you guys should charge that, and if there’s two of you, then you should charge’… and they had all kinds of reasons. If you don’t, then people are going to think that something’s wrong. Me? I just said, ‘You know better than we do.’ You have to give people room to move around in and do things. If you do it all yourself you go crazy.”
And when the Band and Dylan were informed that the tour would gross $5 million and net at least half that, no one felt that it was a bit much? Or asked if it was really needed or deserved?
“No way do we feel we deserve it,” Robertson replied calmly. “I think the whole thing is so out of proportion it doesn’t make any sense at all. But I don’t think a gallon of gas is worth a dollar, either. I think that the whole thing is so out of proportion, you couldn’t just step in and say, ‘Wait a minute, everybody.’ That’s not our job.”
Dylan echoed Robbie: “I put it in Bill Graham’s hands,” he said. “I just let people know I was ready.” He added: “Originally, I wanted to play small halls, but I was just talked out of that.”
Graham himself said that he could have suggested a high of $20, and still sell out the tour, just to prove the point “that the market will bear it. But that’s not what I was trying to prove. I tried to make it a decent price that I didn’t think there’d be complaints on.”
Each show in the first four cities was sold out; but in Chicago and Philadelphia, concerts were not sold out until nearly the last minute. In Chicago, last-minute shuffling of sound and lighting equipment made 1000 seats available for two shows, and they were sold on the days of the shows. In Philadelphia, at the time of the first show, at 2 PM, there were still tickets for the third show, the next night, available at the box office.
Graham maintained that it was immediate sellout, dating back to the December 2nd placement of ads in every city on the tour. Thousands of ticket requests had been returned then, he said. But 99% of requests had been for the night shows, leaving day-show tickets unsold. Also, he said, just two weeks before (that would be around Christmas), it was discovered that some side seats, with “obstructed views,” could be sold and ads were placed announcing “obstructed” tickets for $8. But, according to a Spectrum employee, the 19,000-seat auditorium sold some 16,000 seats for each show in the first rush, and placed ads on WMMR-FM by December 8th.
Later we learned that Madison Square Garden, on January 17th, announced more tickets available for the New York shows. Graham and David Geffen had previously reported an estimated 1.2 million ticket requests in the New York area; now, for some last-minute reason, the Garden, which can hold 58,500 people for three shows, had seats to spare.
Every show ends up sold out, of course, and overall, the six-week, 20-city, 39-show tour will gross over $5 million and net at least $2.5 million, according to what Graham calls a “conservative estimate.”
And in Philadelphia, the only city outside New York to have Dylan and the Band for more than two shows, writer Jon Takiff remarked: “It’s pretty phenomenal to sell out three shows at the Spectrum.”
Still, the facts seemed to make so much hype-confetti of Graham and Geffen’s pre-tour claims of a nationwide, overnight, mail-order sellout.
Bill Graham, the man who has an answer for just about anything, was even equipped with the proper languages for this tour. In Montreal, at the end of the first concert at the Forum, after the encore, he told the crowd, in fluid French, that Dylan had gone and would not be back.
It was a bilingual crowd, you could tell by the chatter around you. But, the student said, “I read there are 6000 Americans here tonight.” Because of the language situation, said Graham, Montreal was the only city to sell tickets through box offices, and thousands of people had crossed the border to get tickets and, a month later, to attend the show. “You should have seen the lines,” the young man said.
One woman, who came to Montreal from Plattsburgh, New York, seemed disappointed with Dylan after “Lay Lady Lay.” It was the new way he had of singing it, no longer country-comfy and inviting, but snarl-joking, stretching last words and snapping them off with a grit of his teeth.
“I liked the old Dylan,” said the woman, an employee at the state college in Plattsburgh. “Here, on this song, I felt he was ripping me off, just singing a song to get through it. He’s not sharing a part of himself with us.” She broke into applause, minutes later, when Dylan went into “The Times They Are A-Changin’,” and joined the ovation while Dylan offered two bows and a clenched left fist. She nodded her approval again as the solo Dylan worked his way through “Gates Of Eden.” And when “Rolling Stone” came around, she was on top of her chair, standing atop her cotton coat and clapping along. (Dylan: “‘Like a Rolling Stone’ is just as real today as it was then. The audience is reacting the same as back then. It was always the one that got the best reaction.”) And here, when Dylan returned for the encore, the ovation continued on and did not suddenly die, the way it had in the other cities.
“Always love to come back to Montreal.”
While friends of Dylan said he had stayed off the road mostly because his family came first, he left his wife and children behind. With him on the first few slops of the tour was Louie Kemp, a friend of Bob’s since the days in Hibbing when they went to camp together. Louie stuck close to Dylan, from hotel to hotel, and accompanied him wherever he went. In Chicago, they checked out a show at the Earl of Old Town. In Philadelphia, Dylan spent off-hours ice-skating. In Toronto; he planned to see The Exorcist at a local university movie house, then canceled out.
In Montreal, Dylan also took it easy, staying on a diet of vegetables, fruits, herb tea and distilled water. His one known foray into the streets — aside from shopping trips — was to pick up a loose NO PARKING sign to take back home.
On the scheduled day of the interview, I waited through the morning and early afternoon. When Dylan’s supposed to call, you don’t go running down to the newsstand to leaf through skin magazines. I decided to busy myself by going over my notes from the seven shows I’d seen, and compiling a list that would tell me, in case I ever got interested, just which songs Dylan was doing most often, and how many different numbers he had done in his concerts so far, at an average of 18 songs per night, with the Band adding another nine or ten.
It turned out that Dylan indeed had and played — favorites. Of 32 songs he had tried, thus far, 12 numbers had appeared in, at least, six of seven concerts. In every show, he had performed “Lay Lady Lay,” “Ballad of a Thin Man,” “All Along the Watchtower,” “It’s Alright, Ma,” “Like a Rolling Stone,” and two from Planet Waves, “Forever Young” and “Something There Is About You.”
“Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues,” “It Ain’t Me Babe,” “Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door,” and a new number, “Except You,” had been done in every show but one, and “Most Likely You Go Your Way (And I’ll Go Mine)” had been sung seven times in five concerts.
“I Don’t Believe You” had been done five times, scattered out evenly, and “Ballad of Hollis Brown” was also a five-timer. “Times They Are A-Changin’” had been done twice, in Chicago, and once each in Toronto and Montreal. (Having stumbled through lines each time he tried the song, Dylan got a present from Bill Graham at intermission of the second show in Montreal: a set of cue cards, the lyrics to this, one of his best-known — if not by him — compositions written out in two-inch-high letters. Dylan laughed, then marched out and substituted “Blowin’ in the Wind” in the he “Times” slot.
The rest of the list included one-time acoustic shots of “To Ramona,” “Mama, You’ve Been on My Mind,” “Song to Woody,” “Maggie’s Farm,” “As I Went Out One Morning,” and “It Takes a Lot to Laugh (It Takes a Train to Cry).” Twice each, he had done “Rainy Day Women (Nos. 12 & 35),” “Just Like a Woman,” “Hero Blues,” “Love Minus Zero (No Limit),” “Gates Of Eden,” “Girl From the North Country,” “Don’t Think Twice, It’s All Right,” and the new “Wedding Song.” Three times each, he had performed “Tough Mama,” another new, gritty love song. “Leopard Skin Pillbox Hat,” and one of his own stated favorites from the protest days, “The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll.”
“It’s more interesting for me to be able to move things around,” said Dylan. “These are the songs that were important for us, for me, for people we knew. They’re mostly songs that’ve been recorded through the years.”
I hadn’t heard any songs from New Morning or Self Portrait yet, I said.
“Well, we’ll do some from New Morning. We’ve got three or four numbers. But Self-Portrait, I didn’t live with those songs for too long. Those were just scraped together.” To, say, pay some sort of tribute to the songwriters you liked? Dylan smiled and nodded.
Dylan and I exchanged admissions of nervousness, soon enough, we were comfortable. He’s been well known to be antagonistic during interviews, challenging the wording of questions, offering totally evasive or fabricated responses. He does, in fact, give mostly half-answers, and one is not encouraged to pursue his replies. His face says to take a second to let it soak in, see the self-evidence for yourself. If he was putting me on with any of his responses — say, in his promotion man’s dream of an answer about doing his old songs — then he was a good actor. And, as he said during our hour session, he’s not a movie star.
The first time we’d talked, Dylan had mentioned a special enthusiasm for doing the Texas dates, in Fort Worth and in Houston January 25th and 26th, just before the five New York shows.
“Maybe it’s just the Mexican influence,” he said. “They’re more receptive to my kind of music, my kind of style,” said Dylan. “In the old days…” he paused. “I hate to call them the ‘old days,’” he thought out loud and laughed. “Anyway, I did New York, San Francisco and Austin. The rest were hard in coming…”
The tour, he said, wasn’t planned to take advantage of a lull in the music business, or to make a statement in a time of national crisis. “I saw daylight,” he said, “I just took off.”
Did he miss being onstage?
“Sure,” he replied. “There’s always those butterflies at a certain point, but then there’s the realization that the songs I’m singing mean as much to the people as to me; so it’s just up to me to perform the best I can.”
What kind of feeling did he get, singing the “protest” and “message” songs again, especially considering what people might read in his decision to revive those songs?
“For me, it’s just reinforcing those images in my head that were there, that don’t die, that will be there tomorrow. An in doing so for myself, hopefully also for those people who also had those images.”
In an earlier chat, Dylan had implied that it was a “new time,” in which people were united in their political thinking. I mentioned a comment by a member of the Committee, that much of the country still needed turning around, as evidenced by the overwhelming reelection of Richard Nixon, after four years of fairly obvious nonsense, and by the underwhelming call, at this point, for his removal.
“Sure,” Dylan agreed, “there’s still a message. But the same electric spark that went off back then could still go off again – the spark that led to nothing. Our kids will probably protest, too. Protest is an old thing. Sometimes protest is deeper, or different — the Haymarket Riot, the Russian Revolution, the Civil War — that’s protest.
“There’s always a need for protest songs. You just gotta tap it.”
What, I asked Dylan, had he been doing to keep his vocal chords in shape? Had he been singing regularly, at home, through the years off the stage? He said he hadn’t. “We’ve been through the big tours before,” he said. “Actually, I’d like to have a little club where I could sing when I felt like it.”
What about the changes his voice and vocal style have gone through over the past few albums? Dylan looked past me, then out the window again. “That’s a good question. I don’t know. I could only guess — if it has changed. I’ve never gone for having a great voice, for cultivating one. I’m still not doing it now.”
As for the rearrangements of songs, the harder, snappier way he’s singing some of the older songs: “You’ll always stretch things out or cut it up, just to keep interested. If you can’t stay interested that way, you’ll have to lose track. But I’m me now, that’s the way it comes out.”
What? You’re meaner now?
“What? Oh. no I’m me now,” Dylan laughed. He could just see the headline.
Is Dylan planning to stay in Malibu?
“No,” he said, “we’re just there temporarily. It was cold in New York and we didn’t want to go back there after Mexico [and the shooting of Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid]. I can’t stay away from New York!”
How did he get the role of Alias in the Sam Peckinpah film?
“Just one thing into another. [Pause] They took me on because I was a big name. I’ve seen myself on screen; movies don’t impress me. That part didn’t scare me off at all. I just hoped I didn’t get shot during the movie.
“I don’t know who I played. I tried to play whoever it was in the story, but I guess it’s known fact in history that there was nobody who was the character I played in the story.
“No, I don’t want to be a movie star,” he continued, “but I’ve got a vision to put up on the screen. Someday we’ll get around to doing it. The Peckinpah experience was valuable, in terms of getting near the big action.”
Would Dylan do more films before tackling his “vision”?
“The Peckinpah movie brought me as close as I’ll get,” he said. “I’ve been on sets of movies and TV shows, but they were small-time compared. They spent $4, 5 million on Billy The Kid, had all the top people. So that was really heavy, gave me that vibration. When I finally do mine, it’ll have that vibration.”
What about his latest business moves?
“I don’t think about it,” said Dylan. “Just had to get out of some legal hassles from back in the old days.”
Dylan, in earlier announcements, had planned to have his own label, ironically named Ashes & Sand, the name of the holding company he’d set up back in the old, Albert Grossman days. Dylan smiled, laughing at himself:
“That only lasted a quick few minutes,” he agreed.
What were the advantages to having his own label? Was Dylan advised by an outside party to form his own company? “I advised myself it was a good thing, and then I advised myself that it wasn’t. I just didn’t need it.”
Dylan does, however, maintain an interest in spotting — and helping — new talent. If Ashes & Sand were a reality, Dylan said, he’d want Leon Redbone.
“Leon interests me,” he said. “I’ve heard he’s anywhere from 25 to 60. I’ve been this close” – Dylan held his hands out, a foot and a half apart – “and I can’t tell. But you gotta see him. He does old Jimmie Rodgers, then turns around and does a Robert Johnson. Redbone had surfaced at various folk festivals in the past few years and is every bit the mystery that Dylan indicates.
And the other Leon, Leon Russell, who produced only a couple of cuts with Dylan?
“Leon and I, we didn’t do that much.” Dylan couldn’t remember exactly what they’d done, beyond “Watching the River Flow” and “When I Paint My Masterpiece.”
“It went fine, it was as good as it could’ve been expected to be. But the producers that have meant the most to me are Tom Wilson, John Hammond and Bob Johnston. They were there. They were there when . . . well, it’s like a small group of friends.”
What about the Dylan album, the collection of Self Portrait outtakes Columbia had released on the eve of the Dylan tour, after Dylan split from the label to go with Ashes & Sand, and then Asylum? Dave Geffen had charged Columbia with holding the album over Dylan’s head, threatening to release it unless he re-signed his contract. “That’s when they sealed their doom,” he said. Geffen, speaking on Dylan’s behalf earlier in the tour, had characterized Dylan’s response to the album as utter repulsion. “He disclaims it,” Geffen said. “He doesn’t know that Dylan.”
(Columbia’s vice president of A&R, Charles Koppelman, denied Geffen’s allegations. The album was delayed, at Dylan’s request, during contract talks, he said, but Dylan had never expressed disapproval with the album itself. “He called Goddard [Lieberson, president of Columbia] and said he didn’t mind us at all putting out the album,” Koppelman said. The executive couldn’t offer much explanation for the sloppiness of the album: the lack of information on dates of recording, backup musicians and even composers’ credits. “We had a lack of information ourselves,” he said. Columbia, Koppelman said, will continue to release Dylan material. “We have a fairly good amount of tape,” including live concerts and “a group of tapes where he performed with other well-known performers. We have a good few albums,” said Koppelman.)
Dylan described the material on Dylan as outtakes, sung “just to warm up,” he said. “They were just not to be used. I thought it was well understood.” But, he said, he couldn’t understand all the critical downgrading of the album.
“I didn’t think it was that bad, really!” he said.
Dylan said he thought Clive Davis, the president of Columbia Records, fired last May for alleged “financial malfeasance,” was “a scapegoat.” But even if Davis was still at Columbia, he said, he would’ve left the label. “It was long overdue,” he said. “Just a gut feeling it was time to go on. I suspected they were doing more talk than action. Just released ‘em and that’s all. I got a feeling they didn’t care whether I stayed there or not.”
As for David Geffen: “He’s there.” What does “there” mean?
“Whatever it takes to be there.”
Has he signed a contract with Asylum, as Geffen said?
“I’m not so sure we signed one. I don’t sign anything these days.”
It’s been a tour of luck and coincidences, running into Neil Young’s father, Ronnie Hawkins and Bob Dylan himself. But there was also the leaflet I picked up outside the Nickelodeon, blood-red headlined: 40 DAYS! AND NINEVEH SHALL BE DESTROYED. It was dated November 12th and distributed by the Children of God, a local religion franchise. “40 Days,” of course, was Ronnie Hawkins’ first major hit, dated June, 1959.
Here, sitting with Dylan, I also thought about the headlines that had surfaced upon his arrival in Philadelphia and Toronto. In Philly, the Evening Bulletin carried a story: “Fewer Jews Reported in Philadelphia Area” (population decreased 7% in the last year). In Toronto, Dylan was greeted with this headline in the Globe and Mail: “Apathy, Alienation Reported Rampant Among Young Jews.”
“It is not the slightest bit surprising (but nonetheless shocking and depressing) that no less than 88% [of converts to Christianity] consider the Jewish religion ‘valueless,’” said the report issued by P’eylim of Canada, a Toronto Jewish organization.
Religious images have long been part of Bob Dylan’s music. In 1971, he visited the Wailing Wall in Israel. Now, on tour, he was rumored to be planning on handing over his cut of the profits to the Israeli cause; that he was an “ultra-Zionist.”
“I’m not sure what a Zionist really is,” he said, putting down the rumors as “just gossip.” As for the religious images that surface regularly in his music, he commented, after a good pause: “Religion to me is a fleeting thing. Can’t nail it down. It’s in me and out of me. It does give me, on the surface, some images, but I don’t know to what degree.”
“Like da Vinci going in to paint the Last Supper. Until he finishes it, no one knows what the Last Supper is. He goes out and finds 12 guys, puts them around this table, and there’s your Last Supper. Or Moses. He found a guy and painted him, and, forever, that guy will be Moses. But why Moses, or the Last Supper? Why not a flower? Or a tree?”
Dylan had earlier mentioned an astrological influence on his return to active performance, the removal of an obstacle, Saturn, in his planetary system. I asked him to elaborate.
“I can’t read anybody’s chart,” he said, “but the thing about Saturn is, I didn’t know what it was at the time, or I would’ve gone somewhere away. It’s a big, heavy obstacle that comes into your chain of events that fucks you up in a big way. It came into my chart a few years ago and just flew off again a couple of months ago.”
Who’d clued him in on Saturn?
“Someone very dear to me.”